It actually is the most hilarious of ironies that despite what very real harm Thor might have inflicted upon the early stages of the movement through misinformation/mischaracterization; The fact is, I don’t think this movement would have come near to exploding the way that it has recently if not for the perfect Rube Goldberg machine of drama surrounding this man in the past 6 months.
Seriously. He could not have Barbara Streisand effected the “Stop Killing Games” movement harder if he tried. It really is such poetic justice. It’s a shame that I don’t live in the EU or I would gladly sign the initiate myself. Here’s to hoping that another EU regulation can have sweeping effects for the US. As a reluctant and very jaded US citizen myself, I harbor no illusions about any real and meaningful consumer protection regulations to ever make it over here. Mega-corpos have simply spent far too much money buying out every level of government, legislature, and regulatory bodies that exist.
Europe really is like a strange beacon of hope for US consumers, as odd as that sounds. Fight the good fight for us as well, brothers.
I’m calling it now: Thor is going to eventually say that this was his plan all along.
I can believe this, if he wasn’t such a narcissist or such a lying douche bag who always has to be right and has something to say about absolutely everything while having a story to go with it…
Then he would be a pretty cool guy…
Some of his advice isn’t actually bad though… I watched him for a bit but the more you watch him the more you see him for who he is…
A 5-D Chess move truly beyond comprehension by the mortal mind.
My only real experience with this guy was that he helped fund a mario 64 romhacking competition that I entered. So I got some money from him because of it. Funny how that works out.
To think I actually liked this guy, what an egotistical asshole he really is.
Egotism often translates to charisma and confidence, but falls apart eventually.
Also, a reminder, the “Con” in con-artist is short for confidence.
How about let’s all not talk or make angry memes about the guy. Ross requested that he not be harassed. Something about not wanting negative energy.
One of the big reasons many people are “okay” with making fun of him. Is that he could basically make it all go away if he just admitted he was wrong.
The whole thing stems from him being so full of himself that he cannot admit any fault, ever. He has been objectively proven wrong many times on several different topics, there are a lot of situations that heavily indicate misconduct, etc. And he literally went on a stream with a licensed psychiatrist who tried to explain some of his faults. To which he laughed and said “Okay, don’t see it that way, but alright”.
At the end of the day, he seems almost incapable of admitting that he ever did or said anything wrong. So people keep making fun of him, since he’s objectively proven wrong repeatedly.
If you’re not familiar with it, check out his classic wow hardcore drama. He’s absolutely incapable of admitting any fault. And he and his mods just ban anyone immediately if they try to have a discussion.
I’m not gonna go out of my way to review bomb his game or send him messages or at him on twitter. But I am not gonna stop calling him a narcisistic idiot whenever the topic comes up. People should know. That is not harassment, that is countering misinformation, at least IMO. A meme like this is not harassment in my book either. He is a public figure.
I doubt he’ll ever use Lemmy to be honest, but I get what you mean.
Since what happens on Lemmy stays on Lemmy, I guess it must be fine.
I said I get what you mean.
Ross is not my dad
yeah but he’s a daddy tho 😘
It’s not about Ross, it’s about sending a message.
I feel like a tourist on a safari trip with this whole saga. A colleague of mine told me about this situation and now I can’t look away.
When all is said and done, I definitely think it would be a good idea to have game libraries both physical and digital where people can play old games as they stop being profitable to developers.
I have vague memory of there already being such consumer made game libraries for old Gameboy titles back in the 2000s but those sites were taken down. It would be great to have some sort of system in place because this licensing bullshit is exactly why I ended up completely leaving streaming as a whole (for movies and shows) and went back to physical media in january/February of this year. I borrow dvds at the library now. It is fucking fantastic. I had forgotten how much I missed going looking for movies I’d like to see in places like Moby Disc and Blockbuster. It’s so comfy and when you find a movie you’ve never heard of before and you bring it home and it’s really good, it just feels so special.
I think games should have that too. I stopped playing games in 2015 because I just saw no end to having to fork out money all the time to keep up with the tech and getting new titles and gradually seeing how it was more and more an online thing instead of a physical thing so I just stopped. Didn’t like the direction games were taking. Seems like it is reaching a breaking point finally.
Libraries are so important for culture.
Now that Thor has helped us achieve our goal. Let us never speak of him again.
Just remember that we still need more signatures on the EU one, to rule out bot and incorrect signatures.
EU one requires an ID/passport, UK one doesn’t – I’d argue that the EU one is safe and the UK one should get more attention on the validitiy
The type of verification depends on the country and some don’t have any verification at signing. I’m Swedish and when I signed I just filled out a form, no checks of any kind.
Time for the EU to adopt FrejaID
EU is actively working on the EU Wallet and certain sources tell me it is getting there.
Ross explained it in his last video - there are reasons to be skeptical and unsure if it’s truly there until at least 1.4 mil signatures. And more votes is never bad. So both need more attention. If it reaches people in the EU it will also reach those in the UK.
gotta summary? I don’t wanna watch a vid
There’s always just people that mess up on the form. But they also monitor the sign rate and saw some periods of higher than normal signing in the middle of the night in the EU - indicating someone might have ran a bot to sign with invalid information. The EU only validates the signatures once the petition is closed, so they need a safe margin where even with a significant amount of invalid signatures, they still make it. Afaik 1.2 mil is about what they would expect for a normal vote of this size to be safe, and 1.4 mil is basically more than enough to compensate for any bad actors.
The EU only validates the signatures once the petition is closed
Ah, makes sense - thanks for this
Can someone explain just what exactly he did?
I tend to avoid social media drama like the plague.
Misinterpreted the article, made a video about it. Ignored his own comments calling him out on it.
Was overall an asshole “I know more than all of you” through, tone and everything.
Then doubled down.
Business as usual for Thor, sadly
But in short, PirateSoftware had a fall from grace for narcissism and with his previous opposition to the petition, became a “villain” to unite against.
I don’t know what happened in details but I really don’t hate him, as a member of the video game industry he has the right to make his voice heard.
I’m still glad consumers won here :)
No one’s silencing him, though right? They’re just reacting to what he said, which is consequence. Is this somehow challenging his right to make his voice heard?
Lying and being rude to someone for no reason is not making your voice heard
I’m not saying you should hate him. And he absolutely have the right to his own opinion. But what he did is the equivalent of reading a news title, and then go trash talk it in the comments about how awful it is, when the article wasn’t about what you were mad about, at all.
Basically this;
Title: Denmark shuts down 60% of their wind-power
Article: Denmark shuts down 60% of their wind-power, pending an investigation as 1 million birds have died in them over the past 3 months, they are currently assessing the situation and investigating why this change in bird migration route has occurred and how to prevent more deaths. According to local expert, they will use the time to perform maintenance and test various methods of scaring birds away.
PirateSoftware: Denmark are the fucking worst, they shut down tons of wind farms, they are anti renewable, they don’t want wind farms, they realized that they can get cheaper gas, if they import more, and the difference will offset the cost of running and maintaining these wind farms. Where are they getting this gas? Probably Norway, possibly even Russia dude! They can eat my ass, the entire thing. Dried shit in my ass hairs and all.
If you’re interested in the details: https://youtu.be/HIfRLujXtUo?t=1117
I actually do not know who that is. Some YouTuber?
Trashy twitch streamer with a massive ego problem
Just know he’s someone who wants you to eat his entire ass.
I’m glad that someone I’ve personally disliked for various reasons is finally having a lot of people see them for who they really are.
Man this dude is a total nepobaby tool.
I came to PS through YouTube shorts and his streams were cut to ribbons and repatched into something resembling a zeitgeist-appealing view.
Then I watched a couple of his long form videos and was like … eh. If anything it taught me more about the danger of using shorts as an onboard to any big vtuber. Much like movie trailers and their movies, they tend to overpromise and underdeliver.
This became undeniably apparent when YouTube started shoving Jordan Petersen into my feed. Much like the thousand monkeys at their typewriters, you can take the words of anyone who talks at length almost daily on a subject and edit them into something that sounds reasonable and appealing.
I already knew that JP was a right wing rhetoric Markov chain posing as an expert/pundit before YT started promoting him, but it really did cement the point.
Any male dominated channel that ever “gives advice” gets shunted into that pipeline by algo pretty consistently.
I like stand up comedy and it’s a full time job keeping Rogan out of my suggestions.
Yeah, for real. YouTube is essentially placing infinite bets that it can drive you into the rabbit hole. Watched a short of Dillahunty give Peterson a verbal wedgy? You must like big words, so here’s more Peterson! Watched a short of Joey Swoll telling people to be polite, because it rolled on automatically? Here’s an Andrew Tate wannabe with shrivelled nuts to subtly criticise you about your dad bod.
Obsession and radicalisation are one and the same to the algorithm, and both turn a targeted individual into a money printer. And fuck the consequences right? Because Google got theirs.
Even Hitler out of context sounds good. Context is paramount. Never trust a good speaker with the extra time to edit himself in post with out the context of the original or their history.
Nowadays its also quite common to design speeches around short form videos, so that you can then edit as much as possible into short little segments that are optimised for short form content. The right wingers do it a lot and, at least in Germany, our leftist party realised that this is a strategy to not miss out on.
It’s often not the speaker doing the editing, there are thousands of channels built around creating and releasing these cast-a-wide-net shorts to subtly drive you towards their goal of obsessively watching right wing vtubers saying things that compel you to be a selfish narcissist.
Omg… this comment… this comment right here 👆. This is what I needed to see because I relate so strongly to it. F’kn guy sucks! (By guy sucks, I mean coworker of my nightmares that leans on me like a cancer). But my god, I’m so happy for him.
Credit where credit’s due
I’ve never liked the guy, he’s always seemed so full of himself like he thinks he’s smarter than everyone and can never be wrong.
I blocked this guy from my YouTube suggestions last year after getting heaps of his videos recommended to me, and in every one he comes across as an insufferable know-it-all.
I wrote him off as a prick after he practically had a narcissistic meltdown during a stream with a psychiatrist when he was told that he comes off as an arrogant pedant and needs to learn to admit when he’s wrong.
And if you know anything about what he’s talking about, you quickly realize that in fact he does not know it all.
Can I be a big time Twitch celebrity too if I doodle a series of completely nondescriptive boxes and link them with little lines in MS Paint as I talk?
He has literally said that the MS Paint doodles aren’t meant to be super descriptive or helpful. He started doing it in his meetings at Blizzard, because he found that any visual aid was good at keeping executives’ attention. Whenever he had to do a presentation, he’d use MS Paint every few minutes to keep them focused.
And now he does the same with his viewers. He busts out MS Paint every few minutes, just to refocus the viewers and keep them engaged. It’s not to help with whatever he’s describing; it’s just to keep the viewers engaged, so he keeps making money off of them.
To his credit, at least he admits this. It’s not like he’s hiding his strategy. He just does whatever will push him to the top of the algorithms and keep viewers engaged.
I hate everything about the language used here. Not your fault. Just hate it.
To be fair, I do this at work and while I get funny looks I do get complicated ideas across better when I can provide visual aid.
Frankly I need to improve my MS Paint skills. I need to get my mouse handwriting up to at least 70% of the Khan Academy guy’s level.
Pretty sure he uses a wacom
Iv always been confused over why he was ever in a meeting with executives when his official job position was QA tester. Not lead, not supervisor. He was a grunt worker.
To his credit, at least he admits this. It’s not like he’s hiding his strategy. He just does whatever will push him to the top of the algorithms and keep viewers engaged.
I’m sick of that excuse. The whole I’m dumb or I don’t know or it’s for the algorithm excuses people make to try and deflect criticism. Guess I’ve just seen to many people of prominence use that excuse one to many times over the years.
It’s possible it’s not an excuse. I’m in software eng. Doodles and on the fly flow charts are made all the time. It’s much easier to follow a complex topic if you have something to point to. Especially when trying to tie together concepts, like interplay between services, timing, DB, APIs, etc.
It’s playing the game by the rules as written. If the Game Master is upset at a player for using their own rules against them, that’s the GM’s fault. I can’t begrudge a guy manipulating a mega corporation (in this case, manipulating Google/YouTube’s algorithms) for profit. He needs viewer retention to stay at the top of the algorithm, so that’s what he’s doing.
The viewers aren’t the game masters, though. I honestly wouldn’t want to participate in a game where I have to retain the attention of people without giving them anything of value. I think at some point those who participate also need to take some responsibility.
I’ve just heard so many of the same excuses for even scummier people over the years of always shifting the blame to justify whatever is necessary to get the bag. The excuses seem ever less convincing.
I think you’re confusing ‘excuse’ for ‘reason’ here. no one is excusing his behavior, just pointing out that the reason he does it is because the system allows for this kind of behavior. we can see through the veil, but others are being hooked by it because it’s designed to keep you hooked.
it’s the same with other charismatic always online personalities. they’re really good at spinning their bs and people keep eating it up because it sounds good.
There’s people who will explain why it is done, and use it as an excuse why it is okay because that’s the rules of the game. Seen it way too many times from apologists. Heck the comment I responded to went about how they give this guy credit and can’t blame the guy for doing it.
That goes from explanation to excuses once they started providing an opinion on the behaviour. So that no one is making excuses isn’t right.
This is a long-winded way of saying “Don’t hate the player, hate the game.”
Can I be a big time Twitch celebrity too if I doodle a series of completely nondescriptive boxes and link them with little lines in MS Paint as I talk?
Definitely. Especially if you have large breasts.
Do I have to be a woman also or are the breasts enough?
It’s 2025. You can be a big tiddy vtuber no matter what you are in real life.
The latter works better, then you can go full Lily Tino when called out and ‘attacked’ for the obvious BS.
“If you’re a big fat man, I’m a titty fan, and I’d love to see yours, too!”
Wings of Redemption makes it work… ok. He doesn’t make it work at all.
he also cheats in single player puzzle games
of course there is no way to definitely prove that, which was probably an intentional tactic, but certain puzzles he “solved” in “hours” took a whole community weeks to figure out (brute force was the only way) and there’s no way he’s just happened to guess the right answer
It’s funny because it’s not like he’s speed running or anything, he could literally just tell chat he was cheating because the puzzle was too hard and nobody would care.
But he has to keep up his insufferable smarter than everyone image by “solving” puzzles fast.
Agree, the few videos of his that I appreciated were so rare and in every one he reminds me of that guy who is a pain to actually work with and any way other than their way is completely incorrect to them.
There are people with imposter syndrome, who you wish would say more and then there are people with overinflated self confidence, who just won’t shut up.
If you think he is an insufferable know it, you have not met enough insufferable know it alls. He is look warm obnoxious at best.
*lukewarm.
Sorry, I’m not in this fight, but my inner grammar-nazi just couldn’t help herself.
Apology exempted. Just please considered that the person you are correcting may not know English as their first language or by be struggling with dyslexia or some other issue you may know nothing about
That’s totally fair. I’m not a native English speaker myself, but some of the English I have learned has been through corrections from friendly souls around the internet so I wanted to pay it forward. I’m not judging or attacking you as I don’t expect anyone to be perfect in any language. Not even their own. Just wanted to help out 🤗
I don’t know man, I thought he was insufferable then, and after watching this rundown I stand by original opinion of him being an insufferable little gremlin.
Peace of life advice, don’t let other people tell you how to think, form your own opinions based on the things you value and experience.
Thor exist, and so do a lot of people that are a lot worse. He gets at more hate than he deserve when people like Jordan Peterson exist.
Also, you don’t have to watch his videos. You can just ignore him and move on with your life. There are better things to do with your time than to hate someone.
There’s a beautiful sentence at the end of every Rare Earth video: Don’t let other people think for you, they can barely think for themselves.
There is some really truth to that.
Oh wow you know so much about this topic and everything else!
All I am saying is that i have met truly insufferable know it alls and he is not one.
Oh the irony lmao
I am not sure you know meaning of irony
I watch this dude sometimes, he says he’s a fulltime game dev but all I see him do is play other games. The game he works on has seen very little progress.
Would be nice if he at least admits he’s a streamer and not a game dev.
Yeah but did you know he worked at Blizzard?
He’s been working on that game for almost a decade now, too.
I’ve also noticed this from watching his stream and the more I learn about the guy the less I like him. He seems to misrepresent and oversell himself quite a bit.
Btw did he tell you about the time he worked at Blizzard, for the millionth time?
He worked at Blizzard in the same way that Apple store employees work for Apple. They do, but not in the capacity that’s been implied.
Are Apple devs even contractually allowed to say that they’re Apple devs? I swear every employee from every other company won’t shut up about it on twitter but you never hear a thing from Apple people. Have I just been missing them completely?
I know a few people who used to work for Apple. The reason a lot don’t say it though is because if you do people automatically assume you had something to do with whatever feature they don’t personally like, and you get berated about it.
Ah, that’s completely understandable. Most people don’t realize that in a lot of companies, the decision to make the stupid feature/break your workflow comes from a suit 10 pay grades above your level and despite everyone involved trying to explain that it’s a bad idea.
Also it’s a big fucking company haha
The job he got through nepotism?
I remember seeing gameplay of Heartbound in like 2017? maybe earlier. it’s still not finished?
No it’s not. It’s sad.
I mean isn’t it a Deltarune ripoff ??
EDIT: Undertale it is then
Deltarune didn’t exist yet. It’s an undertale ripoff.
Which is very telling, tobyfox released a whole game on his own. While this " I worked at blizzard, BTW" tool hasn’t with an (allegedly) entire company around him. He’s a grifter, he scams people around him to profit off of other’s work. That’s all he does.
Given that it didn’t exist yet, more like an Undertale rip off
Sounds an awful lot like what YandereDev did when he was still relevant.
No joke, YandereDev has been making more progress than Thor on Hartbound and he at least does not pretend to be experienced Blizzard game developer.
yanderedev is always relevant
One of the best cautionary tales for developers
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“game dev” is a way to put it
