Self-driving in general has been overhyped by grifter tech bros like Elon and really shows the current limits of ML. Today, ML models are basically fuzzy, probabilistic functions that map inputs to outputs and are not capable of actual reasoning. There is a long tail of scenarios where a self-driving car will not generalize properly (i.e., will kill people). Throwing increasingly more data and compute at it won’t suddenly make it capable of reasoning like a human. Like other ML use cases, self-driving is a cool concept that can be put to good use under the right conditions, and can even operate mostly without human supervision. However, anyone claiming it’s safe to let today’s “self-driving” cars shuttle humans around at high speeds with no additional safeguards in place either has an unrealistic understanding of the tech or is a sociopath.
Coming here because I saw how downvoted this post was on Reddit lol. I love that it’s triggering the Elon fanboys.
Maybe it was downvoted because of Mormon weirdo Mark Rober and not the content itself?
Based on comments it’s the Tesla stans.
Ahah Tesla is like a 2000s knock-off of good existing technology
Thank god it doesn’t have LIDAR sensors, much cheaper to repair the front this way
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I am not a fan of Tesla/Elon but are you sure that no human driver would fall for this?
Lets assume that a human driver would fall for it, for sale of argument.
Would that make it a good idea to potentially run over a kid just because a human would have as well, when we have a decent option to do better than human senses?
What makes you assume that a vision based system performs worse than the average human? Or that it can’t be 20 times safer?
I think the main reason to go vision-only is the software complexity of merging mixed sensor data. Radar or Lidar alone also have their limitations.
I wish it was a different company or that Musk would sell Tesla. But I think they are the closest to reaching full autonomy. Let’s see how it goes when FSD launches this year.
FSD is launching this year??! Where have I heard that before?
The road runner thing seems a bit far fetched yeah. But there were also tests with heavy rain and fog which were not passed by Tesla.
The road runner thing isn’t far fetched. Teslas have a track record of t-boning semi trucks in overcast conditions, where the sky matches the color of the truck’s container.
Should be fine if the car reduces speed to account for the conditions. Just like a human driver does.
Isnt there a rule if weather very heavy and you cant see you must stop driving immediately
You mean a traffic rule? I can’t comment about the US but in Portugal I don’t recall such a rule when learning to drive. Also in Finland I have not experienced that since traffic keeps going even in heavy blizzards.
Props to Benn Jordan for doing this a year ago on a slightly lower budget.
Bonus deep dive about using LiDAR to map out space mountain
I wouldn’t exactly call that a deep dive.
The channel is for 5-year-olds, they would drown in a real deep dive
Easy: „If you want to learn more check out our second channel where we explain in depth how we approached this topic, the technology used and what we learned.“
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Im shocked Disney isnt thowing a fit over that. Their legal team must be busy this week.
Getting into a legal battle with an immensely popular YouTuber would probably cost them a lot more in bad publicity than they would reasonably make from a lawsuit. I guarantee someone at Disney is doing or already has done the calculations.
Insane that the telsa drives into spaces its unsure of. So dangerous
That’s the thing that got me. I would have issues spotting that child through the fog as well, but I wouldn’t have sped through it.
A Tesla stopped for me at a crosswalk and I insisted, you go on ahead, I ain’t trusting Musk Tech with my life.
What makes you think it’s unsure?
True its not unsure but it should be. If it doesn’t have good viability it should have slowed down or disengaged auto pilot.
Maybe it is sure but that doesn’t make it accurate
I’ve been shit-talking Elon’s (absolutely boneheaded) decision to intentionally eschew system-redundancy in systems that are critically responsible for human life for years now. Since he never missed an opportunity to show off his swastikar in MANY of his previous videos, I had assumed Mark Rober was a sponsored member of the alt-right intellectual dark web. But I’m pleasantly surprised to see that this video is a solid (WELL-justified) smear. 👌
I had assumed Mark Rober was a sponsored member of the alt-right intellectual dark web.
He is.
What about the claims that he only used Autopilot, and not Tesla’s Full Self Driving?
(Context: I hate Tesla, just curious for the sake of an honest argument)
Philip DeFranco had him on Yesterday and he said the reason he didn’t use FSD was that it required you to input an address, but that there isn’t any difference in terms of the sensors being used.
Given that the other car didn’t appear to have a version of FSD either, I’m unclear as to why Autopilot wasn’t the correct move for the most accurate comparison.
Not any tangible difference in this scenario. Both use vision only. And both use the same computers.
But do they use a different software? Maybe FSD is more advanced than autopilot and could have reacted better?
Just playing devil’s advocate here.
The software may change but these tests show it’s the hardware that’s limiting them. If the Tesla can’t see a kid through fog, it doesn’t matter what software you pick, that kid gunna die.
The other car only used emergency breaking, so there’s that.
He was helping out Tesla by doing that. He was helping them get the wins they got instead of just Tesla massacring the kid every time. Note to self: As a pedestrian and you see a tesla, don’t cross the street.
I like to help a Tesla out by throwing it batteries, Philly style.
