• grue@lemmy.world
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    Why are Puerto Rico and the USVI colored separately from the rest of the US? If you’re gonna do that, each US state should be colored separately too.

    (Also, it’s kinda hard to tell which circles go with which tiny islands, but if I’m reading it right, wow, that’s a high murder rate for the USVI!)

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      I’m kind of surprised that there’s data for St Pierre and Miquelon, actually. It’s part of France, but France’s homicide is way lower than this map shows for the island, so it presumably must mean just the island

      Well, depending on what the source is, since it doesn’t tell us at all

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        I had never heard of those places, and I googled St Pierre murder and got nothing.

        Maps had it in the border of Newfoundland, but the font did make it look like a separate territory.

        Edit: Detective work mostly completed.

        Image Source (Reddit)

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          Actual Source Data (UNODC)

          One murder reported in 2008 and one in 2009. None before it after going up to 2018 which is the end of the data. That’s a rare of just under 16 per 100k. I was unable to find any reports of the 2 murders.

          I did find a new article about a murder-suicide in 2015 that did not make this data.

          Apparently, this was also where the only American execution by guillotine took place!

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    tbh I’d like to see this map with subregions. The differences within a country can be vast. Some of Brazil’s major cities have lower homocide rates than some of the most dangerious cities in the US

    wikipedia list ranking cities by homocides per 100000 inhabitants.

    São Paulo and Rio de Janeiro, two cities widely regarded as dangerous by brazilians, aren’t even in the top 50 on that list, while there are several major US cities. So I think looking only at the country-level you don’t really get a good picture of violence in the americas

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        New Orleans sometimes has weird crime statistics where the murder rate is high but other violent crimes and property crimes will be relatively low. I live here and don’t have an explanation for it. It could be a real phenomenon. It could be a data reporting issue; NOPD has surprisingly good data transparency but bad input, bad output. (A homicide is basically always going to be reported as a homicide since there’s a body.)

        I’m just guessing here but if it is a real phenomenon, I could see it just being that we’re a port city at a crossroads. There could be a major, almost cartel level drug trade that I’m not privy to because the drugs are going to Chicago or St. Louis or wherever. That would lead to more murders than small time property crimes. But I honestly have no idea.

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    So, Honduras, Haiti, Venezuela - no surprise. All semi-failed states for a while.

    Ecuador is the new kid on the block. As I understand it, it’s because the money from an oil boom ran out, then the country was overrun by drug cartels pushed out of neighboring Colombia.

    A shame. Ecuador has amazing natural riches, highest biodiversity in the world. They’ve been copying Costa Rica’s business model of sustainable-ish tourism. Much better than drugs and it really does bring development.

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      Greenland has a population of only 56k, so difference between zero and American numbers is literally 3 kills.

      As they say, statistics are the worst kind of lies

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        Bingo. I’m sure people could make some great “murder is up/down 300%” clickbait headlines.

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        Yeah. Was thinking why is Greenland so high until I remembered Greenland doesn’t even have 100k people in it, so any amount of homicides was gonna drag that number right up

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        But also, Greenland has a ton of social issues. They’re been transitioning from hunter-gatherer (well, mostly hunter) to “modern life” way faster than people in europe or the US did, while still living on a giant block of ice.

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        No one knows. The creator decided that a source and a year of collection were not relevant information.

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        After the danes loosened their grip on Greenland it got a highly developed state and has some of the best data collection anywhere. An interesting anecdote is that their healthcare system is free, but lacking in certain areas, statistics not being one of them. You probably only notice Greenland now, because it shows up as a part of the Americas.

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          It’s a joke about how Greenland often appears on maps like this as “no data”, along with extreme isolationist countries like North Korea and disputed areas like Western Sahara.

          Greenland being “no data” is a running joke, like New Zealand not appearing on the map at all.

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      Im surprised to see Greenland counted as america. I mean, the yanks hasn’t aquired the country yet.

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    Wait, crime in America isn’t actually that high? B-b-but legacy media and Reddit said that I should be terrified for my life every time I walk out my front door! lol

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      1. This is homicide. Not crime.
      2. This map is comparing US with Canada and a Latin America. Latin america in general (obvously as seen, there are big differences between countries) is known for high crime and homicide rate. Concluding “not that high homicide” by looking at this nap is like taking a picture of a puddle in a dessert and saying that the puddly has plenty of water.
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    Creo que lo que nos mantiene con bajo nivel en comparación, es el fernet con coca, el mate, el asado, el helado y la pastelería.