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As an American, I wish they won.
They outlawed slavery looong before we did.
Because they were ahead on industry and slavery was less profitable. Don’t think England was going around thinking it was wrong.
It was a very popular civil movement and governments were essentially forced to act.
the petition in 1814 got 1,375,000 signatures.
Is this true? Or am I getting woooooshed?
In 1972, 400,000 british people (of 6 million at the time) gave up sugar to boycott slavery. Seventy years later, mill workers of Manchester supported embargo of Confederacy during US civil war by refusing to handle cotton picked by enslaved people. This came at a hefty personal cost as their way of making living depended on it. Abraham Lincoln later acknowledged this show of support. There’s statue of him in Manchester.
The British abolishment movement was so popular that they had more signatures demanding the end of slavery than the total amount of votes in the last election. Later, at it’s peak, something like 25% of the entire British naval budget went towards capturing and freeing slave ships.
damn he would hard R wouldn’t he
They don’t look like that any more. Its top hats and tails everywhere
Looks more like the French to me, mate.
I’m black and most British territories didn’t outlaw slavery until the next centruy so no thanks…
Agreed, it wasn’t soon enough, but they did abolish it thirty years before the US fought a war to get it done.
To be blunt, I can’t think of a better reason to go to war than to eliminate slavers and those that would regard an entire race of people as not worthy of respect.
The only other good reason for war is for defense. To protect yourself and your countrymen from a hostile force, but I digress.
That shit should have never been allowed. But here we are.
But here we are.
… Still dealing with the consequences because we went easy on them.
Jokes aside, as an American, I wish the US had lost the revolutionary war. Commonwealth territories ended up with socialized healthcare, a far better democracy, and far better labor rights, while the US ended up with fascist oligarchy. No thanks. I’d gladly trade my coffee for tea if it means I get a real democracy instead of a fascist oligarchy
Tbf some of those former territories aren’t in very good socioeconomic shape. If we’d ended up like Canada that would have been winning the lottery, but plenty of those other former colonies have plenty of problems like classist India.
TBF we didn’t even do that to India; just exploited it. The East India Company turned up and were like “ah, we see you already know how things are supposed to work!”.
Also, Africa.
Africa (and the various tribes and countries) has been fucked over by various European countries for centuries. Can’t lay this one solely on the English.
hey, you broke it, you bought it. Now, maybe they should be doing something to fix this whole problem in the ex-British Mandate of Palestine they cause
UK man arrested for wearing plasticine t shirt
… Maybe not
Canadians are nice, so they are rewarded with a nice country.
Don’t quote me on this but America winning the war played a big part in the spread of democracy around the globe. If they hadn’t, its not clear the monarchy would have ever fallen.
It is a prevailing myth, but personally I am not sure I believe it. I don’t know if it is based on anything.
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I wish the British won the revolutionary war
I wish I remembered which episode that Dennis and Mac were dressed like this.
Watched it recently, S04E11
Ok so here’s the thing: If America lost the war, America would likely be akin to Australia. The UK used it’s North American colonies like they did Australia (that is, a place to transport convicts) so you’d basically be like Australia in that regard. You’d likely be like…cold weather Aussies.
Also:
- Australia would be…different? Maybe Dutch?
- We might not have had a French Revolution, or it may have been different, because a lot of the ideas from the American Revolution inspired the French Revolution.
- Since the French Revolution have rise to the idea of the modern nation state and Napoleon, we’d not have a lot of countries.
a lot of the ideas from the American Revolution inspired the French Revolution.
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Since the French Revolution have rise to the idea of the modern nation state and Napoleon, we’d not have a lot of countries.At first I was like: wtf? Then I remembered we’re in the shitposting community
I mean, am I wrong? France bankrupted itself in the war and in funding the American revolution. The American Revolution produced and popularised a lot of ideas that found their way to France and inspired ideas in the French Revolution (as well as a rebellion in Scotland but let’s not get ahead of ourselves).
The French Revolution gave rise to the idea of the Modern Nation State and Napoleon’s invasions of places like Italy and Germany implanted this idea in those places which eventually lead to the Nationalist revolutions in Germany and Italy in the 19th century.
If the American revolution failed, we’d might not have the French Revolution we know of today. If that is the case, there’s no rise of the Nation State and no Napoleon to spread it, ergo, no Germany or Italy, as well as a lot of other countries.
This isn’t really my area, but afaik…
- the French bankrupted themselves for a number of reasons, one of which was indeed the global Ango-French War (which resulted in the creation of the USA) and the earlier Seven Years War. This wasn’t the only cause of the French Revolution.
- the American and French Revolutions were both products of “the Englightenment” which took part in Europe. To their credit, several of the American leaders saw the value in it and adopted those ideas, but America was pretty much a backwater at that time. Of course American independence was a topic of discussion, much in the same way that the war in Ukraine is today. No doubt some people were “inspired by” the distant foreign war, as an example of ideas that had developed locally.
- I think the 1648 treaties of Westphalia are generally considered the beginning of modern nation states. I think it’d be tough to argue that German and Italian nationalism were “implanted” by the French Revolution.
I had a brilliant concluding paragraph but I accidentally deleted it. Something about how this period of history has many relevant lessons about balancing domestic vs international policy, updating antiquated systems of economic and representation systems, and the interplay between popular movements and individual leaders. But this is, after all, a shitposting community, so no great loss.
cold weather Aussies.
looks at Canadians
Huh.
looks at Canadians
you mean i could have socialized healthcare, weed, and california weather? FUCK YOU BENEDICT CUMBERBATCH YOU SHOULD HAVE TRAITORED HARDER
Nah you’re like Polite Americans. You haven’t got the daredevil chilled out “Australia” energy.
Well yeah no, 'cause it’s cold here eh?
I mean it’s cold in New Zealand and they invented Bungee Jumping.
Could you imagine the teeth of an English methhead?
Don’t the British have better teeth than the US Americans?
I’ve not researched this, but I’ve heard it’s because mouth health is prioritised over aesthetics.
That basically means: no whitening.
Teeth are naturally yellowish
also, dentistry is more accessible in the UK; free treatment is available to a bigger chunk of the population, and private dental care is cheaper as well.
So, in terms of severe complications stemming from lack of dental care, the US is worse, but the obsession with straightening & whitening means that people who have got it together enough to appear in the media generally have superficially nicer teeth.
It’s like most things in America - if you’re doing ok then it’s great, and if you’re not then the rest of the country just pretends you don’t exist.
It’s like most things in America - if you’re doing ok then it’s great, and if you’re not then the rest of the country just pretends you don’t exist.
That truly is the US in a nutshell. The US is fantastic if you are in the top 20% (and you have zero empathy for people you don’t know), otherwise this country sucks.
“Say, how is it that we got socialized medicine but me teeth still look like this?”
Socialised healthcare means they work and you aren’t left in pain. If you want them to look pretty go and fork out for private treatment.
I’ll raise you
It’s also because Americans will spend thousands of dollars on cosmetic procedures for their preteens. Braces are not as common elsewhere. Europeans think a lot of Americans look like they have dentures because of this and veneers.
Define better. They eat healthier (lower rates of diabetes and obesity), but they also spend less money on cosmetics.
It’s pretty obvious that I meant healthier teeth. Which they have because they’re not avoiding the dentist as much. Because it’s paid for by insurance.
I’ve heard that myth before, never see any evidence in favor of it, not that I can be arsed to look.
Not a myth and don’t speak as an authority on something you’ve never researched.
What myth?
UK gets free dental care through the NHS. Just not aesthetics.
Not completely true. Children get free care through the NHS. So do some other groups of people, often people on benefits can but not all benefits IIRC. NHS dentist availability is a growing issue here too.
There’s a lot of people who can’t afford dental care tbh. If you’re unemployed/disabled/whatever you qualify for free care, and if you’re in a good job you can afford it. If youre on minimum wage trying to make ends meet you dont qualify and cant afford it.
I’m so glad England isn’t real.
Oh it’s real and no matter where you live the English have probably pillaged it for spices they never use.
Spices were too expensive for most of the population. Except for the likes of the powdered, wigged gents above.
My ancestors only had beans on toast to look forward to when they got back from working in the mines.
You had beans on toast?! We had to wake up an hour before we went to bed and all we had to eat was cold poison! Times were tough in Yorkshire
You had a bed? Such luxuries, we had to sleep in the turnip fields while they were being ploughed.
you were lucky to have a turnip field, we used to live on the forest floor in a hole in the ground
You ad a bed!? Luxury!
Nah, my ancestors pillaged the fuck out of the English 💪😁
So much so that is the main reason why they have shit teeth.
What? It’s not like our berserker hordes stole their enamel or pushed back the invention of orthodontic surgery…
We took the ones with teeth and left the ones without teeth.
Oh! Right 😁
If they never use spices, what do they use for making curry?
OTOH there won’t be half as many independence days
Counterpoint: Americans would have a higher average numbers of fingers.
Spices they don’t use?
What do you think tea is made of?
The UK has free Healthcare and better quality of life so I’m pretty sure their teeth are better than most americans
Logically when you think of it this way that bullshit excuse of a derogatory assumption made by anericans goes out the window
americans lack education about the world outside of america and are so narcissistic and think they’re better than everyone else that they don’t even bother to try and learn about the outside world and when they do learn of the outside world and other countries having better quality of life than them they make up bullshit mental gymnastics and deny reality because they can’t accept that
So no your bullshit derogatory misinformed opinion is simply not true and is just a stereotype because you americans like to bully other countries like the schoolyard bully that likes to pick on others
We don’t have free dental on the NHS anymore - just discounted. But yeah, your dental health was basically assured. Cosmetic work on NHS didn’t really go any further than braces.
It’s not that we think we’re better than everyone else it’s that we know we are.
As some muslims in a muslim theocracy don’t think they are the only worthy to be saved: they go around saying they know they are.
Which is the universal annoying self-centered people who have no real nation, religion or actual belongship: they give a fuck about their flag/religion/social group only in the measure it serve their damaged, narcissistic, ego.
Yeah, let’s see how that works out for the oligarchs in Russia. Don’t stand near any windows dip ass
I’m really enjoying your insights!
Keep them coming please.
Sorry bro, You fucked me dry
These days, as a British subject, you’d be smoking crack in a hoody and knockoff Burberry cap, bruv.
laaaame. you used to be a real country. bring back the leaded face paint
Southern cuisine would be salt beef, white bread and Yorkshire tea.
Nah, that would be the northeast AKA New England. Southern Cuisine would probably be French and Mexican/Spanish food, the Louisiana purchase and a few American wars never happening.
Then again who the fuck knows what the colonial powers would have gotten up to without the US zealots taking over? 🤷
I read somewhere that British people eat like they’re still living through the Blitz
It was one lot of Brits against another lot of Brits anyway. Basically one lot looked like the picture above and the other dressed like cowboys. Not during the war obviously. Afterwards when they went West and hammered the native people.
Simplified history speedrun.
Sorry, if im smoking crack I strip down to my undies and cover my self in butter. That’s just the way it is.
With the price of butter these days I think I would use rapeseed oil instead. Much cheaper to cover myself in.
That might be ok for you but I have standards.
don’t ever let no knife-twirling crumpet goblins come between you and your artistic process, King
