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    I think being so fucking desperate to be distracted is actually our primary problem as a country. Stop avoiding reality, it’s time to grow up

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    No, the Americans need to be consistently reminded of what their government is doing so that there’s at least the slightest chance they’ll put a stop to it. They don’t get to ignore the problem, it’s their job to fix it. They are not babies to be coddled.

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      I have no clue what to do. I’m American. I’m trans. I voted for Harris. I live in a blue state. I’ve gone to protests. I’ve talked to state senators about legislation. I’ve canvassed. I’ve talked to Trump supporters and tried to get them to change their minds.

      it all feels totally useless. nothing I’ve done has had any effect. my own mom voted for Trump three times. it’s like being chained to an anvil and thrown overboard. I’m swimming but I’m still drowning.

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        You do know what to do and you are doing it! It’s not going to magically solve everything but you are doing more than most people.

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        Continue doing exactly that and convince others to do the same. It’s a slow process but the only way to fix things.

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        As another trans person, I say the best thing to do now may be to avoid the typical liberal “protest and vote” advice. Protesting simply isn’t as effective as it used to be, and voting should not be the foundation of your political activities. Voting is useful, but especially in a firmly blue or state, it’s mostly a symbolic gesture.

        There are trans people in your local area who are being hurt by this administration. Forget protesting. Focus on helping the actual material needs of the community. Every blue state currently has trans refugees coming into them. Often these are young adults showing up with few resources, often ending up homeless. There’s likely a population of homeless trans kids in your own community. These are the people you should be focusing on helping right now. Join a local trans support group to help out your brothers, sisters, and siblings. If an organization doesn’t exist, start one. Things to focus on:

        • Housing and access to housing

        • Job assistance.

        • Food and other essentials (one group in my area runs a trans specific food bank, as many trans folks have had bad experiences with church-run food pantries.

        • Medical assistance. Provide recommendations to local providers. Educate people on safe DIY use. If there are local HRT homebrewers in your area, help organize distribution and mutual aid.

        *Traditional gender support groups for newly transitioning folks.

        • General mutual aid and emergency assistance.

        Honestly, for trans people, it’s completely valid to just laser focus on the material needs of our own community right now. We’re being targeted by an organized campaign of state persecution. There’s hundreds of thousands of us that are internally displaced refugees within the borders of the US. There’s a lot of people hurting, and a lot of people in need. Protest if you want, but personally, I’ve found focusing on direct material needs and mutual aid to be a much more productive and rewarding path. The Trump regime is trying to destroy us. Simply helping your brothers, sisters, and siblings is an act of political resistance and defiance.

        Your goal is not to bring down the Trump regime. That is not your responsibility. For those most targeted, simply surviving these years is your primary act of resistance. Take care of yourself, and take care of your brothers, sisters, and siblings. That is how I as a trans person have found meaning in this time. I voted, but that was only symbolic. And I’m not currently participating in protests. I’m focusing on actually directly helping people instead. Survival is resistance.

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      We are. There are protests throughout the country every day that the media is either ignoring, or painting as “riots.”

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    Bombs are falling in the Middle East, but it is Americans who are in a nightmare? Lol.

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    distract americans from the nightmare they are enduring

    I assure you the nightmare is being experienced more acutely and directly by the people being actively bombed.

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    I am wondering when Americans are finally going to come to the inevitable conclusion that conservatives have to be utterly destroyed by any means necessary in the most extreme prejudicial manner possible. These people are absolute pure f****** evil.

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      First we need to endlessly debate whether or not Kamala Harris would’ve done the same thing. Since we can never know we can all just assume posting shitty memes is more important than voting. We’ll tell each other it’s late stage capitalism so we can feel smart for doing nothing because it’s all going to collapse anyway, nothing we can do! Committed to being uncommitted! Apathy to the end!

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      Liberals dont want change. Until the left accepts that libs gotta go in the ground too, nothing will happen.

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        I agree, but the enablers arent as big of a problem as the perps right now. I feel like they would fall in line pretty quickly upon seeing the consequences of their actions.

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      The people who vote conservative will probably never come to that conclusion.

      We have to let the older generations die off until there isn’t enough support or physically stop them from voting to stop the conservative support.

      Maybe starting a third party that genuinely wants to disrupt the status quo would fix some stuff.

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        3rd party…yes! Possible, not really. The two parties have a spot on the ballot, built in, automatically given. All others have to jump through each state’s requirements to get on the state ballot. The most effective at this lately is the libertarian party. In the election before last, Jo Jorgenson was on the ballot in all 50, GO JO! Sadly, her media coverage was paltry at best. Most Americans didn’t even know she was a realistic option. Finally, most Americans think that a vote for a 3rd party increases the chance of their less desirable major party winning. What they fail to realize is that, red or blue, the boot on your neck is the same boot, different shine.

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        Lets get something REAALLY FUGHIN STRAIGHT:

        Conservatism DOES NOT DIE OFF.

        AAAALLLLLL of the radical fascist right wing Nazi pundits and influencers are Millennials and younger, with a few GenXers scattered about.

        Everyone SWORE that conservatism would die off with the Boomers, but that was 15 years ago. Its not gonna happen.

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          Every new generation votes more progressive leaning than the last.

          So once the boomers are all gone, the Republican Party loses a shit load of control.

          Regressives have tried to appeal to the incels their ideology creates, but it isn’t enough to outpace the above trends.

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            A law was passed 30 years ago to ensure that the politically motivated only hear one ideology. The platforms have changed since then but the same people are in control of the messaging and censorship.

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    What’s super weird is that it resembles the war in Iraq but dumber.

    After 9/11 Americans were out for blood, for revenge.

    This time they were out for blood, democrat blood. Revenge for… being told to stay inside.

    I guess every 20 years they realize they hate each other so they outsource the violence?

    America is truly that neighbour which has constant domestic drama that the rest of the neighbourhood has to put up with constantly cause they are too nice to shun said neighbour.

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    Sorry this doesn’t really help forget about the situation but it’s a very good possibility.

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    Americans… The people who go to work every day and get paid shit for their work…enough to not complain too much but not enough to get a head. The people who get fixed incomed at 64 and then inflationed until the bank gets the house back. These people did not bomb Iran.

    Orange turd and his team of evil fucks did.

    Now, I’m actually neutral on this particular action. Nobody wants Iran with nukes. However please then do the same in NK and ruzzia.

    If any of this does backfire, I just want you all to know that we just woke up to this shit just like everyone else. Just like when the orange turd invaded LA. We just woke up to this shit. Is it gonna be over in 3.5 more years?..god I so fucking hope so. The guy in coocoo unstable. Just like Kim and Putin, he should go to a retirement home and leave the rest of us alone.

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      Nobody wants Iran with nukes.

      Frankly, I do want Iran with nukes. Iran hasn’t declared war on anyone for over 200 years. They’re stuck in the same neighborhood as a rogue nuclear state that engages in frequent wars of expansionist conquest. The region is incredibly unstable precisely because there is no military counterbalance to Israel. Iran getting nuclear weapons would be an immense boon to peace and stability in the Middle East. I trust the Ayatollahs with nukes a lot more than I do the Israelis with them. At least the Iranians don’t believe that their deity gave them the right to annex entire nations.

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        Iran getting nuclear weapons would be an immense boon to peace and stability in the Middle East.

        I think you just put your finger on exactly why the US doesn’t want that to ever happen.

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        It will be like Russia, where they make nuclear threats on a weekly basis, but know they would be obliterated if they ever actually used them.

        Having said that, you’re right about Israel having nukes being nothing to cheer about.

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      A huge chunk of Americans enthusiastically support extensive warring with Iran (or will, soon). We are culpable.

      Is it because so many of use glued to feeds and TV news? Yeah. But those are our products, and we basically elected Big Tech and Newscorp to the presidency, so… Yeah. It’s not gonna be over in 3.5 years.

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    I hate that 2/3 of my fellow citizens support this, either directly or or tacitly by choosing not to vote.

    I really hope the protest/non voters are happy with the outcome they chose. I can’t wait to hear them tell me that Harris would have done this too! Anything to justify intentionally causing the suffering of more people…

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        No, voting is literally the least you can do, and that’s too much for some people…

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          It’s literally the least you can do, less than literally anything else, and doing the least possible is not good enough.

          You don’t get to wash your hands because you voted for Kodos. Has Harris even come out against bombing Iran?

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            You’re the goddamn idiot if you thought abstaining from voting would help anything. Hope you’re proud of yourself shithead

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          You mean the people getting gassed and beaten and locked in cages fighting these bastards?

          Who’ve been getting shot and stabbed and run over by them in street fights for a decade or more?

          Yeah. Couldn’t be asked to lift a finger

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            That’s not ‘the least you can do’ by any means, but good try at a lazy gotcha to someone who has been tear gassed at these kinds of protests for years.

            Yes, voting is the least you can do. Protesting is a very good tactic, but choosing to disregard political opportunities tells me you’re not really worth listening to.

            Have fun playing computer warrior, kid, I’m tired of you.

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      Bombing the shit out of the Middle East is the only bipartisanism the US has ever reached, therefore yes, a Democrat would have had to bomb something because that’s what US presidents do. Anyway, keep on blaming voters instead of holding the party accountable for its mistakes.

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        “Don’t blame the voters who elected the president” is the sort of argument I’d expect from someone intentionally ignoring that he bombed nuclear sites.

        BoTh SiDeS arguments are stupid and people who make them should be ignored. Like I said, anything to justify your bad choice.

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          Both sides arguments are actually pretty enlightened. You can have criticisms of both candidates and vote for harm reduction. If anything the inability to criticize both sides for where they are the same is the same type of belligerent as MAGA. Harris running on building a fucking wall was a fucking disgrace.

          But fuck not blaming voters for their stupid fucking decisions and fuck the sham of a democracy the US electoral system is. FPTP and WTA elections in the modern age are a fucking disgrace as well as no equal representation and voting with money.

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          I didn’t make a choice. I don’t live in the US. But my country is strewn with US military bases and it wasn’t Trump who put them there.

          Trump is simply more ignorant about how a US president should bomb the shit out of Middle Eastern countries, but don’t act like he invented anything.

          And yes, on some things “both sides suck” because the US have been terrorizing other countries for decades.

          They bring desolation and have the gall of calling it peace.

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            I’m not the one who helped let a Nazi win. I’m doing what I can, but I can’t change things with citizens who ignore how the system works and choose to sit out and let this shit happen.

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              Voting doesn’t mean shit. I’m sick of arguing with bluemaga. Fuck it. Fight or get out. Stop blaming people who you think have a responsibility to lick your copmommy’s boots.

              If fighting fasch were so important, you should have made literally any compromise.

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                I’m sick of arguing with bluemaga

                then don’t.

                Take your own advice and go fight or get out or whatever. Stop blaming people who you think have a responsibility to do whatever it is you think they should be doing for you and go do the thing yourself.

                If fighting fasch were so important, you wouldn’t be indoors on lemmy telling people to leave.

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                If fighting fasch were so important, you should have made literally any compromise.

                Any compromise other than voting for the Democrats, you mean. Clearly that’s a compromise too far for plenty here.

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                  Or just any policy compromise. Don’t suck so much billionaire dick, 20% less enthusiasm with the genocide, do something about the cops, whatever. I don’t need everything.

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          Here’s the thing, Brohard: every time someone says we should do something they’re ALWAYS met with those kinds of shit comments from cattle car fodder such as yourself. “You first!!” is not the fucking flex you think it is, and only shows that YOU are the coward armchair warrior.

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            I dunno dude. Seems you wouldn’t be getting this upset if my original comment weren’t right on the mark. Also, you too ≠ you first.

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              Your comment isnt right on the mark; its frustrating because it’s nihilist MAGA-style groupthink from an entire class of people who bitch about The Way Things Are then reject all who want to change it. It’s like trying to get a sandlot baseball game started but every kid in the neighborhood just whines that baseball is stupid and pointless but bitches that there’s nothing to do.

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          Such animosity towards someone saying we strictly shouldn’t do just that. Probably just telling on yourself.

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            if you need a translation for how everyone reads this conversation:
            “all these people (not me) need to go do something about it!”
            “which includes you”
            " stop projecting"

            uhhhhhh sure dude

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              Oh, so its just me. Im the lone soldier. You’re right, your way makes the most sense.

              Troops assemble! Hear my detailed plan! Meet you all in the town square at sun down. Leave it to me, anon!