Just wondering as an American watching the EU pool resources and mostly work for the same common goals over my lifetime.

To clarify, I’m not saying that this would be a part of the United States of America, but a separate world power.

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    As a Canadian, could it be rebranded to Western Democratic Union (or something), so we can join? Also it might help UK undo its mistake if it didn’t have to admit its mistake.

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    I truly hope so. And the best time to initiate this project is right now, when all of Europe is facing same issues that unite us

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      I agree with you. But we have a problem that the US didn’t have: we all speak vastly different languages.

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        The US did have that problem, too. There were settlers from all european countries who spoke all different languages, plus natives (albeit that the natives were genocided over time, so their languages were sorted out the other way), and at one point during the constitution process they had a vote on which language should become official. And it almost was german, btw.

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          nd at one point during the constitution process they had a vote on which language should become official. And it almost was german, btw.

          That’s a modern myth. IIRC there was a newspaper that had to decide to publish either in German or English and they decided in favor of English. The USA doesn’t have an official language but de facto it is English.

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            I looked it up and we’re both right and wrong. There was a vote, but it was about printing laws in german, additionally to english prints. And there is no federal official language, but some states codicized english as their official language, sometimes alongside other languages.

            However, my point still stands as in the beginning, there were many different languages and they somehow managed to find a common one.

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    Im not european but a guy had an interesting take with it being more unified but like the swiss system where the cantons (ie in this case countries) hold a lot of power.

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    I don’t think so. Of course it’s hard to predict what Europe will look like in 100 years, but I’d like to image the EU more as a service provider for its member states. Maybe the military will be combined and the economy is already very much linked together which will increase. But I don’t think the member states will cease to exist as sovereign nations. Europe is far more diverse not only in language but also in culture. That is in my opinion a strong feature of the union as it is a union in diversity.

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    History comes in cycles. We’re entering an era of strong nationalism so I can’t believe that would happen any time soon. But once the world runs out of oil, the climate is decimated, and population comes crashing down because of restrictive immigration laws, there will be a sharp curve to the left and pro-EU that could lead to more interest in federation.

    Or not, and the EU will continue to crumble during the water wars.

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      soon. But once the world runs out of oil, the climate is decimated, and population comes crashing down because of restrictive immigration laws, there will be a sharp curve to the left and pro-EU that could lead to more interest in federation.

      Or

      This. Also, throw in the mix a backlash against nationalists abusing the cultural power void that might appear if both the US and the UK are collapsing - including the media industries -, the soft power of English declines, and instead of mass adoption of Mandarin in the stead of English we might try again Esperanto (which might not be the perfect universal language, but it could be perfect for Europeans).

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    Probably more integration than we have now, but not full integration like the US. I think something one might call a confederation is likely. Unified military, more integrated economies (stuff like having a common framework for company registrations, not tax but taxation systems), shared system for identification/passports, maybe an EU-tax (similar to how most countries have something like municipality/city tax, regional tax and state tax, some of that could be moved to an EU-wide pool of money).

    But I don’t think we’ll see taxation and budgets left over completely to the EU, education, healthcare etc. Just unify the boring stuff and make integration better.