If you’re saying all sides lie, of course the do, but that’s not what the previous comments were about.

For my part, it was about a seemingly pathological need to contrast every real life actual harm coming from the right, with an imaginary potential thing from the left.

Both sides have been and can potentially be very bad. But one side is clearly worse than the other, and pretending otherwise with every opportunity is imo really harmful.

The logic of “yes but the other side did X” is flawed, and we actually try stop this behavior in little children, but we can’t seem to accept it even as adults

The contemporary mainstream right would be considered far right a few years ago. This kind of “all extremes are bad” and “the truth is in the middle” view has been taken advantage of by the right, as they have kept pushing the “middle” so far right that social democrats and all kinds of leftism is considered extreme, even beyond the USA where it probably used to be the case even longer.

Edit typo

Greek government will never give in either. And they will still win the next election with more or less minimal losses.