You’re right, I thought I remembered that article giving actual figures but instead it just handwavily says they didn’t sell many.

So, here is one that actually quotes a number, 3% of the whole iPhone lineup: https://www.macrumors.com/2022/04/21/iphone-13-mini-unpopular-march-quarter/

And another: https://www.cultofmac.com/news/iphone-13-mini-makes-up-a-tiny-percentage-of-apple-sales

And another, this one says 5% for some reason: https://www.notebookcheck.net/iPhone-13-Mini-sales-continue-to-disappoint-as-rumors-claim-the-iPhone-14-Mini-may-be-axed.593194.0.html

Either way 3% - 5% is a small number for Apple (or Samsung, or…) which might not justify making a small phone, but in absolute numbers, thats actually a lot of people! A smaller manufacturer should definitely be able to profitably fill this niche…

Yeah, sounds like they improved quite a bit, I might consider it, thanks! Still, lack of 5G means not so future proof

The old jelly pro had a decent modding community, and I definitely was able to unlock the bootloader and root it, though not sure about degoogling.

There is. The screen is smaller, but the actual phone is bigger 🤦‍♂️

They can just make them a little thicker, but still usable with one hand.

Really, it’s not a technical problem, it’s a marketing problem (i.e. not enough demand, unfortunately).

As a lover of small phones, unfortunately that’s the truth. Apple tried a couple years ago with their iPhone mini and sold very few. Still, there should be enough of us that maybe some smaller phone manufacturers could fill this niche.

And maybr make it fully unlocked and repairable, replaceable battery, etc. while they’re at it.

I have their old Jelly Pro, awesome tiny phone, replaceable battery, fits easily into any pocket, was my daily driver for a few months, but then again, it’s just a bit … too tiny. Also, battery life sucked, camera quality forget it, speaker not loud enough, low res screen, etc. I’d be curious if they improved on these things with this new version.

Still, one thing is still missing from the specs is 5G support. I mean, 4G is plenty fast, but not very future proof, carriers are starting to shift more towards 5G, 3G is already being phased out, and it’s just a matter of time before 4G follows.

I applaud your optimism, I wish I had any left.