I get what you mean, and I would agree with you but the last month kind of disillusioned me.
The fact that they managed to spin things like the presidents right hand guy giving the nazi salute on his inauguration day, or Trump blatantly supporting a dictator of the historically biggest US adversary, or him alienating and threatening to attack or annex US allies, or the countless other actions, is just defeating. I mean where the hell is the red line? What would it take for them to say “yes, Trump made a mistake.”? They pushed the narrative so far out that they’re okay with him aligning with Putin over the EU. I mean he literally said that Putin has gone through a lot with him and praised him while trying to extort Zelensky and screaming at him with the whole world watching. Where does it end?

It’s just extremely defeating.

But what about housing? If you live in a shoebox with no hope of getting a larger place, it’s unlikely that you’re gonna have kids.

slightly worst off

worse* off

biologically speaking, the children of rich parents are much more likely to be born rich themselves

Bro, what? Biologically speaking? What are you talking about?
The kids of rich people are rich because their parents are rich. They grow up to be rich because they have their parents wealth, which they either use to create more, or just stay rich.
The fact that they’re rich has nothing to do with their “biology”.

What are you proposing anyway? That only rich people procreate and then somehow eventually everyone will be rich? If you can do simple math like addition and subtraction, you’ll realize that that scenario is not possible.

I wouldn’t hold out hope that any of them would change their mind to be honest. Those people would never vote differently, they’ll just vote in the next MAGA idiot.

I’ve been lurking r/conservative a bit since the election, and every time Trump, Musk or their cronies do something bad, it’s either not posted (though maybe it’s being removed), or if it’s outrageous enough, it’s always the same story:
At first they’re like “I don’t know about this one guys…”, but they’re quick to correct course with “I know this looks bad, but Trump knows what he’s doing and we don’t have enough information to judge yet”.
And then after a day or so, when the marching orders come from Fox and the like, it’s “This is a genius 4D chess move, anybody who doesn’t see it is a low IQ libtard”.

Then there’s inevitably infighting - anybody who isn’t following the new narrative is a leftist who’s infiltrated the sub, old comments which were sceptical at first get deleted and new posts on the same topic get posted where all the comments are praising Trump. They cry about brigading, mods purge the users and post stickies on how they’re planning to handle it in the future (and beg for donations).

Then the next thing happens - wash and repeat.

A lot of comments start with users trying to convince others that they are a true conservative, afraid to say anything slightly critical of Trump or Musk. The purism is in full swing. They really can’t accept that anything Trump or his admin does, no matter how outrageous, could be bad.
It’s like the whole sub is going through cognitive dissonance.

It would be really interesting if it weren’t so sad.

I actually don’t feel that way even on older posts that have already taken off. That’s really nice about lemmy.