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  • Its not your “home” if the countries laws say it isn’t. Humans rights say people should not be stateless, however it doesn’t mean you auto gain citizenship of the a random country you are born in, same as some don’t get your citizenship of your parents origin. You get one or the other as your citizenship, or apply for it.

    As a hyperbolic example: Imagine your get a lottery win, buy yourself and your spouse one of those islands and start your own country, suddenly everyone hears about it and lands boats to have babies there, now they are your citizens and you owe the social services to a 1000 babies as is their right as a human.


  • Sure like torture, but just being born a human doesn’t give you citizenship in half the world. Countries get to decide who gets citizenship. Laws are how they are.

    Like A as a human you have the right not to be killed, but B citizenship (which is belonging to a nation not the world) is granted by that nation.

    Like their are stateless people even. They don’t get auto citizenship

    Sure like torture, but just being born a human doesn’t give you citizenship in half the world. Countries get to decide who gets citizenship. Laws are how they are.

    You would have to cite a source because I don’t see any reference of UDHR and other treaties that declare citizenship in a specific country to be a human right. Just that you have a right to nationality and right to change it. But countries retain sovereign control over how they grant citizenship, within limits set by international law.

    As a born human you have a right to take on your parents citizenship or the country you happened to be born in if that is their law, but you don’t get to choose willy nilly it is set by blood right or birth right laws




  • Most of the world is blood right citizenship, you inherit it from your parents. Which is actually helpful if abroad on a trip and you get born you automatically get citizenship of where your parents normally would reside as a citizen, The person you were commenting on is correct, human rights has nothing to do with sovereign nations laws on who becomes a citizen. Its not a right as a human to take on the citizenship based on the continent and boundaries you live in because countries are a construct. Think back to all the border changes in places like prewar Germany. Your border could change, it doesn’t change what country “you belong to”. American having Birthright sort of made sense because it was the " new world " at the time.

    By no means do I support what USA admin is doing, they are absolute assholes. But not liking it doesn’t make it a human rights violation