• Mika@piefed.caEnglish
    12·
    2 days ago

    IMO we should release Android from the Google grasp instead of doing something from the scratch entirely. Good part of it is opensource already.

    Need to write the missing bits, and most importantly, do the competitive hardware that is not locked into proprietary ecosystem.

  • WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.worldEnglish
    501·
    2 days ago

    EU “digital sovereignty” will not save EU citizens from venture capitalists, big tech oligarchs, surveillance capitalism, for-profits inevitable enshittification, nor fascism or authoritarianism. The only thing that will is open source.

    The goal should be for all governments to switch to 100% open source hardware and software. Only pay for services and support that provides and directly contributes back to open source. That way public money goes to public code — the public good — governments can pool resources and achieve economies of scale that supersede big tech, and every other economy — including the poorest — would benefit.

    The only reason Linux is “behind” is because governments have collectively spent hundreds of billions of dollars on for-profit, proprietary software and hardware vendors.

    It wound likely be more expensive in the short term, but would be significantly cheaper long term, and enable national security and digital sovereignty benefits that are literally impossible with proprietary tech.

    • philpo@feddit.orgEnglish
      9·
      2 days ago

      Open Source Hardware is borderline impossible atm when thinking in a reasonable time frame, especially as this would also mandate EU manufacturing. As a long term goal? Yes. You are right. But you cannot talk about rebuilding the house when the fire is already in your garden. At the moment I am happy when I can persuade customers to not buy HP and Dell just because they know them and instead at least consider Schenker, Tuxedo or Wortmann. (Or Mikrotik, Allnet& Nokia/Nokia Networks for network equipment; Thomas-Krenn for Servers,etc.)

      Open Source software? A goal that can be obtained atm and that can be obtained much faster. And while I totally agree we should lobby for governments to spend more money on supporting open source (Exhibit A below) and the end goal should absolutely be a fully open source structure. This is especially valid as a lot of applications could be standardized that way and a lot of expenditure could be reduced as now often different countries (or even states within those countries) maintain their own projects without much cooperation, doing the same work countless times.

      BUT: Again, the garden is already burning and we need to save the house first. At the moment the urgency is so massive that I don’t give a fuck if, when the only reasonable choice is non-open source but European is taken instead of a non-EU product or a open source project that is production ready in 4 years.

      I literally had to recommend that a client should choose SAP recently. I hated myself for it - every fiber in my body hates SAP. But they offered the only solution to the customers problem that was not an American product. So… Better SAP than nothing. (And no, sadly there was zero open source alternative available and getting a company to develop one would have taken to long)

    • webghost0101@sopuli.xyzEnglish
      6·
      2 days ago

      I haven’t read the article but last i checked there was talk about a European made open source linux distribution.

        • macniel@feddit.orgEnglish
          9·
          2 days ago

          why do we even need “eu OS”? We have already Arch and opensuse and cachyOS?

          • njordomir@lemmy.worldEnglish
            5·
            2 days ago

            Seriously, why fragment the ecosystem when we already have auditable FOSS OSs that can be a drop in EU OS with no need for development. Many of the big companies that made their own Linux distros basically just cloned and tweaked a mainstream distro anyway, why not just latch onto something existing and make a custom install image?

            • macniel@feddit.orgEnglish
              3·
              2 days ago

              Indeed. Also I still think that the initiators try something fishy and are opportunistic, why else come out NOW with a Linux attempt called EU OS like it’s something official.

          • Pechente@feddit.orgEnglish
            4·
            2 days ago

            A linux distribution with the kind of support that Android receives would be great. I know there are lots of Linux enthusiasts here on Lemmy but for most people, the fragmentation and driver issues of Linux don’t make it a viable alternative to macOS or Windows.