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Summary
Trump just presided over one of the greatest diplomatic disasters in modern history, with flared tempers, raised voices, and shredded protocol.
Never before has a U.S. president bullied and berated an adversary, never mind an ally, in such a public way.
During a tense Oval Office meeting, Trump and JD Vance attacked Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, demanding he accept a peace deal with Russia or lose U.S. support.
The conversation devolved into shouting, with Trump accusing Zelenskyy of being ungrateful and “gambling with World War III.”
The meeting ended in chaos, with no agreement reached.
Zelensky can only blame himself. If he showed some sense and restraint he would have returned to Ukraine with the deal. This is not the way you should act with Trump, and I should say especially not when your country depends on US support to the extend Ukraine does.
It’s a bad deal for Ukraine. No guarantee of military or financial support for the war, and they get stripped of resources. Same deal comes from Putin.
That may be so, but I really doubt he was causing this fiasco on purpose because of the deal. Also, he could have, you know, negotiated, instead of arguing for no reason.
Trump and JD talked over him and berated him. When he was able to get a word in, they didn’t even listen.
Well, that happened after 40 minutes of civil discussion. And the thing that changed the way it was it was going was his undiplomatic response to Vance when he said the US has nice oceans, but it is going to feel the problem eventually. This is a rather stupid way of talking to Trump and his administration. If he did not succumb to the provocation it would not have happened.
“If you don’t help me you’ll regret it” is not the way to go in this situation I’m afraid.
And after they did talk over him, insted of arguing he should have shut up and it would have worked out better for him.
This is the definition of delusional 😂 it’s never your guys fault 🤣 even though from the perspective I see it, he was doing the same shit to put him in that corner to be defensive 🤣
Trump throats Putin, to even remotely suggest that this would end positively for Zelensky might as well prove that you’re a shill or bot.
Go back to Reddit.
yes, but that is fully expected and Zelensky should have been prepared.
Prepared for what, a waste of time? Cause it didn’t look like they even wanted to try to offer an actual deal.
Yes, the man who’s first language is not English should have really been ready to tear them apart linguistically. He should have known how to speak in a manner that would prevent them from yelling over him and not listening to anything he said anyway. Do you listen to yourself think or…?
he is a leader for a country that is actively being bombed by Russia, I would expect him to do better at bootlicking if he wants foreign aid.
Name a single language that Trump speaks well.
This entire thing was a sham completely orchestrated to bully Zelenskyy and make him look bad because he didn’t accept a horrible deal. You took the bait, mate.
I thought Zelensky showed remarkable constraint given the circumstances and the deal was no deal for Ukraine.
LOL restraint! Zelensky was calm and cool while Vance and Trump came across as hysterical crybabies. I’ve heard better arguments from 8 year olds in a sandbox. Hilary called it when she said Trump was Putin’s puppet.
I would say nice troll but you are probably serious.