From discord, when I started aggressively mentioning how I use Linux regardless of current topic 🤣

    • itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      1 day ago

      I think the problem lies with the definition of consent more than with the definition of suffering. If the alternative is something worse, then that’s not consent. That’s coercion.

      Now, whether it’s still appropriate to still call it suffering when applied to someone enthusiastically consenting, I’m not sure.

    • wabasso@lemmy.ca
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      2 days ago

      You’ve got me thinking about how the distinction is what the incentive is. Still not black and white, but if you want to suffer because you have only personal enjoyment to gain and your needs are all met, that’s better than consenting to suffering to pay the bills.