• finitebanjo@lemmy.world
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    I see that Adam Connover fan. TBH that guy used to seem cool but he’s spread a lot of disinformation the last few years. The end of College Humour must have broken him.

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      I’m curious, what’s the issue you have with him? I’ve only seen him vocal about the writer strikes lately and his message was fine.

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        He was very critical of the DNC candidates during the election. Saying Biden wasn’t pro-union and talking about how unfit Biden is for office, etc. He also seemed to be very critical of socialism in the USA. He seems to take a controversial stance on every possible subject, possibly just to promote his podcasts and live shows.

        He comes off as one of those people who doesn’t want anybody on the left to win, but he just doesn’t support the right, either.

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          He’s literally on the board of a union and everything I’ve seen him say is very pro union, I think you may be taking something out of context.

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            Connover said Biden wasn’t pro-union. I’ll make an edit to use more clear language.

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          When was he critical of socialism? I saw him once interview a socialist who said socialism in the USA was on life-support. That’s all I could find.

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            Exactly. His defeatism was criticism. His alarmism was dissuation.

            Look, I’m not labelling him the enemy or anything, but I just don’t like the guy.

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              Personally saying that socialism is half-dead seems like a good description to me. It was also seen as an improvement from being totally dead in that interview. Adam himself is a union guy so he definitely seems not defeatist.

              In any case I can understand your position. I personally dislike quite a few people in the movement even if I don’t see them as enemies.

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              Edit: hey wait, I just realized I went down the wrong argumentative avenue. The fact that Biden was better than Trump doesn’t mean he was pro-union or fit for office. Conover remains correct

              We could have had option C

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                Option C lost the Primary by 10 Million votes in 2020 and didn’t even compete in the 2024 Primary.

                Fuck off with your fantasies. You had option A or B.

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                  As of November 3rd 2020, that’s true, and I voted A.

                  In between elections, we had a chance to get C in the race, and we failed.

                  As of November 5th 2024, it was actually option D or B, and I voted D.

                  Maybe if option A had dropped out earlier and let us have a primary, option C would have been in the race. Maybe he would have even won.

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                    Biden won the 2024 primary, which is exactly what you can always expect from an incumbent, and passed his nomination to his longtime VP, so I still consider it Option A.

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        Go watch a clip from when he went on Joe Rogan and dismally failed at supporting and explaining trans issues.

        He is a moron who acts like he has the moral high ground by default, but can’t actually formulate an argument.

        He’s a smug, overconfident blowhard.

        He actually is the stereotype of the privileged, limousine liberal know it all that conservatives paint many of their critics as.

        His heart may be in the right place, but his mind isn’t up to the task.

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      Completely disagree. His podcasts are stellar. I understand people might not like his monologues, but other than that, bunching him with the “world is flat” people is far-right moronism.