I see a lot of politico links in this sub and I’d just like to say:

POLITICO Europe is a subsidiary of Axel Springer SE.

That’s a right leaning and pretty unethical publisher and politico has already been caught several times spreading reactionary propaganda. I also suspect they publish undisclosed opinion pieces as news. Like some fossil fuel investor explaining how wind turbines could be hacked by China without providing any compelling evidence. Many articles are well written so it’s hard to spot the grift sometimes. Just stay vigilant.

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    Do you know the general difference between progressive and conservative or “left” and “right” wing policies? Both see differences in people most of which are innate. Progressivism (left wing) generally aims to level the playing field so that these differences do not affect your chances to be a member of society and live the life you want. Conservativism (right wing) infers hierarchies due to said differences and aims to build a society based on those hierarchies. Religious groups (like christian democrats) work with their religion, often arguing with “god’s plan” or divine punishment, neoliberalism works with money and hustle culture.

    true right wing ideology. It can be a compassionate philosophy that focuses on common good

    No, it doesn’t. It’s the opposite of that.

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      So now we have one axis, progressivism. You can have a progressive right wing (Tories legalised gay marriage arguing it’s for families), progressive neoliberals (Democratic party) and progressive left (like Zapatero in Spain). How do we differentiate between them? Their attitude towards wealth inequality, authoritarianism etc. That’s why liberals are distinct from left or right, there’s as much difference between a liberal and a conservative as between a liberal and a leftist, but those are differences on other axis. There are other dynamics at play but boiling things down to progressivism is why poor were abandoned and are now turning to fascists.

      No, it doesn’t. It’s the opposite of that.

      Don’t treat your opponents as evil caricatures. They might be smarter than you while being wrong and they’ll win because you let them.

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        Yes, it’s more complex than an on-off-switch. Congratulations. Different liberal movements focus on different aspects. Neoliberalism is a radical economic movement building hierarchy on wealth and ability. Some liberal movements focus on individual freedoms (and when everyone is to have the same individual freedoms, differences must be compensated).
        But this isn’t about liberalism, it’s about how neoliberalism is a right wing ideology. And that is because it builds and enforces hierarchies.

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          You make neoliberalism sound like fringe movement in a bazaar of liberal ideas when it is the mainstream ideology that dictates how the world works.

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            I’d like to urge more good-faith argumentation from your side here. Whether or not neoliberalism is “fringe” was not the question.

            This discussion was about Politico = Axel Springer = neoliberalism = right-wing.

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            First, that’s your reading. I never commented on the spread of any ideology.
            Second, what do you want to argue about? I answered your question about bow neoliberalism is a right wing ideology (that you framed as center-left btw).