• Juice@midwest.social
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    24 days ago

    GMO skepticism or not, Monsanto is one of the most evil companies in the world and a perfect example of what makes the profit motive such an inefficient organizer of production and distribution

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    24 days ago

    The moratorium is actually since 2000, but only since 2006 in its current form. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_use_restriction_technology

    Thankfully, no country, much less any multinational corporation, would ever dare cross the UN’s nonbinding, unenforceable moratorium. Can you imagine how stern the tone of the statement of condemnation would be, once it was worded such that a reasonable plurality of countries would agree to back it?

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    25 days ago

    They’re not sterile, but they will sue you if they find you’ve been growing seeds from last year’s crops.

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        25 days ago

        I don’t think they’ve successfully sued anyone for that. The few cases I saw last time I looked people were intentionally germinating or saving/selling seeds.

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          25 days ago

          So uhh… hypothetically if one were to live next to a cornfield and acquire some seeds from said field cough somehow cough, would those purely hypothetical seeds grown in one’s garden then constitute corn piracy?

          Asking for a friend of course.

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            25 days ago

            Saving seed for the farms own use is expressly allowed under plant variety protection and patent laws in the U.S.

            This is why the seed companies created contracts that they require all growers to sign before being allowed to purchase GMO crops. The prohibition from saving seed is from the signed agreement not from the patent or PVP.

            Say if you got grain from the farmer for your bird feeder. Then if you happen to use the grain as seed to plant some for next year’s bird feeder — completely legal. You are not bound by the agreement between the farmer/seed company. Unless you try to sell the grain/seed to another person. Then you are in violation of the seed companies patent in the U.S.

            Remember that corn shows a severe amount of inbreeding depression. So the F2 plant will not produce as much as the farmers F1 did the year before.

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              25 days ago

              That is a reason why most farmers like to purchase seeds every season anyways. It’s way more predictable and you may want to change the strain depending on many variables.

              Farming, especially commodity crops like wheat, is an extremely risky business. Taking out some risk is often worth it.

              Modern farming is way more complicated and scientific than most people realize. The portrayal of farmers as bumbling idiots in popular media is not helping.

  • Ceedoestrees@lemmy.world
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    25 days ago

    Finally. FINALLY. My ulcer grows every time I hear someone quote that list of evil things Monsanto does. Even though yes, they are evil.

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      25 days ago

      Monsanto doesn’t even exist anymore. It was bought out by the totally not evil company Bayer a while back.

      Of course Bayer has suffered quite a bit of indigestion over gobling up that morsel over the years.

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        24 days ago

        the totally not evil company Bayer

        Ah, yes, the totally not evil company that (together with BASF and Hoechst, forming the cartel IG Farben) developed chlorine gas for use in world war I.

        The same IG Farben which was the single largest donor to Hitler’s election campaign, and main contributor to the construction of Auschwitz, where they produced synthetic petrol and rubber for use in the war and performed all manner of human experiments, including testing their own Zyklon B gas.

        The same company that decades after the war was still chaired by well known nazis, and profiting from chemicals developed at Auschwitz.

        Yeah, I’m sure Monsanto is in good hands, and feels right at home there.

        • The_v@lemmy.world
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          23 days ago

          See, totally not evil, yep no evil enterprise here, just the happy little aspirin people, no horrific evil history to be seen La de da t… 🎶

  • Tar_Alcaran@sh.itjust.works
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    25 days ago

    Also, most farmers use hybrid crops, which you already can’t save, because they’re hybrids. (You can save them, but they’re not going to produce the same plants you get them from).

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      25 days ago

      Whether a plant species is hybridized has little effect on whether it grows true from seed or only via cuttings.

      Wild maple trees for example do not grow true from seed.