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Brösche, 26, never made it to LA. She’s been in federal immigration custody since Jan. 25 — the day they tried to cross into the United States through the San Ysidro Port of Entry.
Brösche had her German passport, confirmation of her visa waiver to enter the country, along with a copy of her return ticket back to Berlin, Lofving said. A U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) agent pulled Brösche aside for a secondary inspection.
She didn’t know it then, but it would be 25 days before Lofving would see her friend again. Brösche would spend that time in federal detention, where she remains, waiting for a deportation flight back to Berlin.
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I don’t know why people are surprised. US customs has always been rude and shitty like this. I’m Indian by heritage (US citizen), and I still get looks going through customs at LAX and shitty bag checks.
It also certainly doesn’t help that she was going through San Ysidro. Worst port of entry imo. Customs has always been bad and this stupid administration has given them more fuel to be worse.
Tho I’d argue that this is the situation in customs all over the world lmao. I was in a similar situation in France. Not even tourism. Went out to eat as I had a long layover and had issues when I came back.
You’re lucky that they let you back out after you entered france without a Visa, even if it’s just for a snack.
If the germans weren’t pussies they would kick the yank out of rammstein real quick.
But hey, they are quite tempted by the far right themselves.
Yes, we’re tempted by the right, too. But ousting them now would do no good.
But Ramstein (only one m, unlike the band) - keep the USians there for a time, let’s keep it as is for a time until it’s time to make some kind of deal.
They might need it one day, so we keep it as a collateral.
All long term international agreements and security guarantees died on the weekend so we need tangible things to force our former allies - now those we have deals with - to ensure they behave.
The correct thing to do would be our foreign office to issue an official travel warning for the US. (Which would have some impact on tourism to the US)
Let’s keep the big things for later, we WILL need them.
The very idea they didn’t just turn her around proves how evil these fucks can be.
Maybe they just forgot
Lofving said the episode is particularly absurd because Brösche’s original return flight to Berlin was on Feb. 15 — nearly two weeks ago.
“Why are American taxpayers spending thousands of dollars detaining tourists who are perfectly willing to leave,” she said.
The average cost of detaining a noncitizen adult is $164 per day, according to an ICE memo. Based on that average, a month of detention costs taxpayers $4,900.
Fucking clownshow of an administration
It’s not a clownshow of course, things usually make sense when costing this much money, and of course they don’t stop making sense when costing billions.
Making sense is not the same as helping goodwilling humanity.
If they weren’t detained and roaming around through the country instead, they’d even spend money.
Make it make sense.
People come to the US because their home country is worse. Why the fuck would you come here (even just to visit) if you’re from a better country (such as an EU country). 🤦♂️
do you know what a tourist is?
Neither does the U.S. Customs and CBP apparently.
I mean, I might hate the US, but visiting The Grand Canyon still sounds nice. I sure as fuck wouldn’t be visiting your country because I think things are better over there.
China, India, Peru, and Mexico, to name a few, have deeper and larger canyons. A similar one to the Grand Canyon is the Copper Canyon. It is located in Chihuahua, Mexico. It is four times larger and almost twice as deep as the Grand Canyon. It has many tourists’ activities, and you can even add other destinations to your journey if you visit it by train. It is a nice option while we all wait for the end of the almost-fascist/probably-fascist situation in the U.S.
There are conferences and clients abroad.
CBP agents at the border accused Brösche of planning to violate the terms of the visa waiver program by intending to work as a tattoo artist during her trip to LA
Oh wow, a visiting artist might come do some art, fucking arrest her!
Jesus fucking christ the sociopathic cowards running these ABC agencies are dumber than shit
Work doesn’t stop being work because it’s artistic.
If you violate your visa you can get deported, that’s pretty normal globally and does involve an arrest. It’s only exceptional because of the inhumane conditions of detention facilities in the US and because she was arrested immediately instead of being denied entry or educated on the restrictions of the visa. If she presumably told CBP she was intending to violate the visa waiver she probably thought it was acceptable for some reason.
“Why yes customs agent, I am intending to perform work in exchange for money while in the US on a tourism entry permit” -Privileged and naive white tourist used to the Schengen area about to dive face first into a poisoned spike pit that was meant to catch brown people
The problem is the spike pit, not really the person diving into it making headlines because they happen to be a white woman.
Yeah, but she didn’t violate it yet. We don’t arrest and detain people for what they might do(excluding threats to national security). Well at least on paper.
I agree that the tattoo work is still work, and I’m not implying you think she was rightfully detained. But if you are, she wasn’t. If you’re not, then this comment is to add context.
And this is just a story that made the news out of sheer luck. Imagine how many more innocent people are locked up or worse.
Not sheer luck, but because she’s german. Germans haven’t been mass migrating to America since the 60s at the latest and her detention is a change from the norm of us mostly only doing this to Latin Americans, Caribbean folks, Middle Easterners, and Africans
So Eastern Europe is not in the list? Just askin
It’s certainly notable because of that, but her Germanity isn’t what led people to finally locate her - what the article outlined was a series of fortunate events.
In Norwegian, live in Denmark and work for a Danish company, who also operates in the US. If my manager were to say, it ask, if I can go to the US office for work, I’ll say no unless I get a really fucking good life insurance while I’m there. I don’t want to go to the US for whatever reason.
Nordic countries > EU countries + Switzerland > Oceania > rest. Unfortunately, I have to admit it as a German.
Imagine how many American citizens are sitting in these camps and will be deported to some other country as Trump tries to eliminate due process and rob them of their day in court.
What a horrible situation for the artists and all those detainees…Seems random people have been detained and held way too long, without legal reasons.
Add tourism to another industry Trump is helping out.
And she remains waiting for a deportation flight back to Berlin, when she already had her own return ticket? Which she would have used already by now and been gone??? God these people are so fucking stupid.
I have to admit: I just crossed the Grand Canyon and Yellowstone Park off my bucket list whilst reading this story.
The police firearm homicides always felt a bit iffy but this clinches it. Definitely not going to try to visit that country. It’s not a risk I’m willing to run.
I just commented this to some other person here. I’ll paste my answer; I hope that’s okay.
China, India, Peru, and Mexico, to name a few, have deeper and larger canyons. A similar one to the Grand Canyon is the Copper Canyon. It is located in Chihuahua, Mexico. It is four times larger and almost twice as deep as the Grand Canyon. It has many tourists’ activities, and you can even add other destinations to your journey if you visit it by train. It is a nice option while we all wait for the end of the almost-fascist/probably-fascist situation in the U.S.
… another industry Trump is helping stamp out.
You’d have to be downright r-worded today to want to visit USA. Not this woman, I mean every one who comes after her.
I would go. But i’m not crossing the border legally lmao no fucking way.
Yeah. I have friends who are wanting to come to the US. “It couldn’t happen to me, I’m white” they say. “I’m from Europe, I’ll be safe” they say.
No.
It’ll happen to them, and I’m scared because they refuse to listen.
Send them a link to this story.
I did.
As an American, I would recommend that folk reconsider travel to the US during the current administration. There are no longer checks and balances and it’s a very dangerous place at the moment. They’re removing all accountability for the border patrol and any immigration adjacent services so they can now do whatever they want. You’re at the complete mercy of the immigration service and they have full latitude to do whatever they want (legal or illegal) as the threat of repercussions have been removed. Be safe out there.
While this is true, people travel to Dubai and to Thailand and to Egypt (maybe not much recently) and, well, to Turkey.
Accountability and checks and balances in countries listed are such that the former two are technically absolute monarchies, so in that regard worse in skeleton than England after Magna Carta.
Thanks. The US is the last place I wanted to go anyway, I don’t want to support genociders.
And these police that have you at their mercy are pm selected for being dumb, and anyone who wants the job just wants the power to harm people. Also they get like two days of training before being given a badge and a gun. When they abuse their power, even when they murder people, they have next to zero accountability.
Don’t come here. Most of Central America is fantastically beautiful, welcoming, and safe. From what I understand Canada is as well (I’m not allowed in the country) but it’s cold there much of the year.
My university sent out travel warning announcements about the US to all students and staff through email and matrix last week. Basically warning everyone, especially queer people, that you should expect complications or unjust treatment when traveling to the US. Kinda crazy that some german university takes this more serious than the US democrats take the end of their democracy.
She didn’t even do anything. They just took her aside because they thought she might use her time to work in the US. What the fuck is wrong with those people?
Give people power without accountability and this is what happens. Every single time. That’s what the rule of law is about and that’s why fascists hate it so much.
Commenting to emphasize this.
I bet she’s attractive to the people who detained her. Why would they separate her from her friend.
I would not even fly to the USA right now, if I would get paid to do so. This country turned from one of the most attractive targets into a total shithole within weeks.
The US stopped being an attractive target to me the moment they fucked over Iraq.
to be fair, it was not an attractive target before either for a long tim, independently of the president. CBP and ICE were bad people for a very long time now, and that’s not even the only problem
I’ve visited the US a couple of times for work.
I’ve been very careful with my wording when they’ve asked if I’m there to work.
Yes, I’m there for work. I’m employed in the EU, and I’m just there representing my employer at a fair or technical meeting. I’ll be gone in a few days.
My colleague didn’t have the same way with his words, but back then they’d just put you on the next plane back.
Yeah, I’ve been to the US for work-related training and it’s the same. You must emphasize that you will not be working as an employee while you’re there, or they assume that you are.
“business” used to be the right way to describe it . Then if asked you’d elaborate.
Sue Sue Sue. Take them all down and take them over the coals for every cent you can get.
Sueing everything and everybody is such an American thing to do.
She’ll be glad to get the fuck out of that shithole and never look back.
I don’t want to be mean, but I think it’s a bit naive that a German citizen would be able to sue the US gov with the current checks and balances
What checks and balances?
It’s the goddamn plot of Mexican Joker from South Park happening in real time
