• Womble@lemmy.world
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    Ok, but then you run into why does billions of vairables create free will in a human but not a computer? Does it create free will in a pig? A slug? A bacterium?

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      Because billions is an absurd understatement, and computer have constrained problem spaces far less complex than even the most controlled life of a lab rat.

      And who the hell argues the animals don’t have free will? They don’t have full sapience, but they absolutely have will.

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        24 hours ago

        So where does it end? Slugs, mites, krill, bacteria, viruses? How do you draw a line that says free will this side of the line, just mechanics and random chance this side of the line?

        I just dont find it a particularly useful concept.

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          I’d say it ends when you can’t predict with 100% accuracy 100% of the time how an entity will react to a given stimuli. With current LLMs if I run it with the same input it will always do the same thing. And I mean really the same input not putting the same prompt into chat GPT twice and getting different results because there’s an additional random number generator I don’t have access too.

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            12 hours ago

            If viruses have free will when they are machines made out of rna which just inject code into other cells to make copies of themselves then the concept is meaningless (and also applies to computer programs far simpler than llms).