• IttihadChe@lemmy.ml
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    1 day ago

    It was kidnapping then and it’s kidnapping now.

    Do you support the Vietnam draft and oppose the protests against it or something?

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      1 day ago

      It’s not kidnapping, it’s law, like it or not. But if you have a felon President, I guess law doesn’t matter that much.

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            24 hours ago

            I have a theoretical question, just to better understand your logic, if you don’t mind.

            If I get into power - I will make it legal to hunt down and murder liberals (that’s basically what liberals support happening under Zelensky’s regime to me, so I think it’s absolutely fair). Obviously it wouldn’t be considered murder under my new law (like you don’t consider kidnapping a kidnapping), but there would a term for it, like “making word a better place” (a la “arresting draft dodgers”) or something like this.

            Now, someone “makes world a better place” to your friends/family/etc. (we assume they are liberals). Will you say that what happened was “world was made a better place”, or that those people were murdered?

            If your answer is not “the world was made a better place” - why? How is this situation different from the kidnapping not being kidnapping because there is a law that says it’s not?

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              4 hours ago

              You see, you can’t say that the germans were murdering jews since it was under a legalist framework 🤓

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              24 hours ago

              This is a really convoluted way of asking “is arresting someone the same as kidnapping?” the answer is no.

              Kidnapping is forcibly detaining someone in an illegal fashion. Hence, the police arresting someone for commiting a crime is not “kidnapping”, whether you agree with the law or not.