k, moderator wants to censor my calling you out on trolling, LET’s PLAY!

We have the tweet, the context, his direct statements saying he didn’t.

You just cited an opinion piece written by the PR department of Proton (https://medium.com/@ovenplayer) one article, 0 followers.

We do have the tweet. All of them in fact. They back up my claims.

The other person you commented on already addressed this and you just downvoted him without any rebuttal.

Quoting an incomplete sentence is peak bad faith. Please, elaborate on how they can backdoor the email communication without the change be visible in the clients

Backdoor is on the server side. For you to mention a backdoor on the webclient makes me thing you don’t actually know how all this works. where they store your email. They already busted an activist for the french government by changing their backend terms.

Because they didn’t do anything that indicates they are violating my privacy

They violated other peoples privacy, but I see, if they don’t violate yours to your face, it didn’t happen?

It’s not a strawman lol.

no one claimed it in the first place, that makes it a straw man.

what would you expect any organization could do in that position?

If you’re going to bust people, be open about it up front, Here we have people like you fighting as hard as they can to say how incredibly private they are simply becuase they said so . You bought into their propaganda so far that you’re willing to ignore anything done wrong by them and continue to claim how secure they are.

I maintain that you are either a PR plant for Proton, or just Trolling us.

Civil enough mods?

By it’s not too difficult, are you actually expecting average users to run certbot cli?

We need to get out of the mindset of jellyfin being self hosted and into the same mindset Plex has of you’re just running it.

Hosting is one of my professional duties so I don’t have problems doing all this. But any idiot can install PMS and have secure shared communication with their friends and family. And we need those idiots.

Jellyfin needs the ability to request certificates and install them without any serious user intervention beyond the initial setup, maybe just an email address. And none of this should require users to touch CLI. This probably needs to be dynamic DNS, maybe we also partner with duck DNS. Right in the GUI make an account, store off the URL in the configs.

I’m presuming this means a le API that will not change from the let’s encrypt side, or advanced clear notice when things are going to change, with opportunities to delay if possible and necessary. That’s where your actual partnership comes in.

We need that thing that Plex has that shows you that your server is remotely accessible from inside the admin. This will help the uninitiated set up a port forwarding and test it.

Once the server is set up and working we don’t need centralized login but we need something. Start with the main settings page, where you drop down in your account on the admin We need an invite users option. It just takes you to users add.

Users add needs to have email or slack or something so that when you add the user it can notify them that they’ve been added and send them a link back to your server. It could be a mailto:// or maybe just a page saying here’s the link to share with your family.

That link would contain the dynamic DNS previously set up and whatever port you’re able to use.

It’s just a handful of creature comforts that plex does particularly well that is barely touched on the jellyfin side. But there’s some of the most important comforts.

Blocking tor at the firewall level isn’t difficult. Anything with packet inspection can do it.

Most people like attributes of other people.

Most people don’t like being liked because of attributes.

When someone is obsessed with Asian culture and they seek out someone that is Asian, It takes a special kind of person to accept that process it and work with it. Some people can use it to their advantage. Most wouldn’t want to.

Now if they could just tidy up remote access so that everyone is comfortable being able to use it.

They really need to partner with let’s encrypt. If they implemented automated SSL generation and regeneration in the app and a dynamic DNS/Port registry, they would get mountains of new users.

Just tidying up remote access would probably be enough to sync Plex.

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If they go after encryption in earnest there’s not going to be any room for secops left.

When they get serious about encryption they will make tor illegal as well.

Tor will not hide you from the feds once they decide they really want to go after encryption. They can either own enough endpoints to find you directly or simply go and shut down all the endpoints. Or, If they have other IP leaks that are unpublished…

On the upside they are firing most of the competent people in government so there’s a chance the CIA can’t do that anymore

He clearly didn’t support Trump in general

lie

so it’s not possible to add backdoors

lie

Proton business model is inherently disincentivizing them to do so. They are a profitable company with a clear profile that would lose so many customers if they decide to do so.

Didn’t work on you

Proton is incorporated in Switzerland, it’s unclear what the benefit would be to “appease” Trump.

Straw man

So even if Andy Yen was a full on MAGA, he still wouldn’t have autonomy to decide that.

being a non profit and him owning enough of it to do what he wants are unrelated.

There is absolutely nothing in the history of Proton that suggests they would be open to backdooring their software.

https://techcrunch.com/2021/09/06/protonmail-logged-ip-address-of-french-activist-after-order-by-swiss-authorities/

There is a long track record of choices to protect users’ privacy.

Tell that french activist they turned logging on for and gave up to the authorities.

Is this law broad enough to also catch up Proton and its services?

They don’t need a law, they already logged and complied on request

https://techcrunch.com/2021/09/06/protonmail-logged-ip-address-of-french-activist-after-order-by-swiss-authorities/

You just encrypt it with every key. It’s wasteful, but not all that complicated.

At that point, you just don’t encrypt things at all.

You make laws like the Online Safety Act in the UK. You then attach a multi-million dollar fine to anyone who doesn’t adhere to the bonkers unenforceable stipulations in the text.

All of a sudden, no one but a corporation with a legal department can safely run an instance without putting their money and eventually freedom on the line.

They might not be able to just stop it, but you can force us into a pirate scenario where we have to do it in the dark.

We are likely starting to slowly head into 1984 territory. IF Fascim continues to rise, eventually, non-state-run media will be deemed unlawful and they’ll do what they can to make it go away.

They are, probably even too quiet. But the level of griefers, bots and trolls is very very low, and selfishly, I REALLY like that.

a while ago where yall saying shit like this became the “normies”

Ohh it’s normal for us. But there are still a lot of sports all-consuming, rabble rousing, linux hating, clue collar people still on Reddit, any I don’t mind them staying over there.

I’m really not happy about bluesky their fragmentation of the fediverse protocols

shrug, I wish they were with us, but they are also a big ole corporate entity, so I’m kind ok with us staying our our side of the fence. As they need to implement payment and corporate protections to their network, we’re free to be free over here.

is only going to harm us in the long run.

We don’t have to play ball. not with them anyway,

I think, If we have any credible threat, it’s going to be from the Governmental gross anti-tampering laws, forced moderation, or backup regulations. They could make it legally difficulty for us to exist.

It’s good to have some friends, but don’t let too many normies in…