It’s just to understand if you do politics or you just talk about politics.
Criticizing without strategic and contextual awareness of what you’re criticizing should stop being normalized. If you just have opinions on stuff instead of building or participating into organizations, I know for sure I can disregard your words.
then you’re oddly commenting on a thread about striking… which is secondary to the important step of building organizations and support structures. Its hard to near impossible for people to strike who depend on that pay check to clear debt, pay rent, etc. Participating in regular organizing events is the right advice, and you got off on the wrong foot asking first for people to strike and only when asked questions you revealed people need to organize. without the proper support structures and alternative means of income in place, it is near impossible to convince people to strike. They need the strike because they don’t have financial security to stop obeying their boss. You’re ignoring the initial situation. That’s creating a perception of you being about only what you think needs to happen without considering others.
Edit: I did not mean YOU specifically asked people to strike first but you get the point. I am reacting to “we need to strike” as a sentence on its own.
I organize tech workers. The expectation that they are going to fight an uphill battle inhibits a lot of them and often it’s not the scenario they are faced with. Tech workers being skeptical of the possibility of unionizing their workplace is a mind virus that needs to be eradicated for anything to happen. If then they find hostility, there are endless means to win over their colleagues, but if you discourage them before even starting, nothing will ever change.
Eh… having unions sounds good to me… a white collar worker. I am just not considered part of the labour class by blue collar workers. So it makes me feel isolated. Don’t be mistaken, we keyboard thumpers already fight corporate bullshit daily. Th e disdain is from blue collar workers.
I didn’t blame blue collar workers. I said I was isolated because even though both white collar and blue collar workers sell their labour for a living, somehow we are never accepted as real labour just because the elite among us make $500k a year for instance.
We all need to strike
we all ARE striking daily. We’re fighting bullshit RTO mandates and quiet quitting everyday
Not even close to sufficient imo
We need a strike. Shut everything down.
How are you contributing to that?
I don’t think these types of challenges are, in any way helpful or in our collective benefit.
It’s just to understand if you do politics or you just talk about politics.
Criticizing without strategic and contextual awareness of what you’re criticizing should stop being normalized. If you just have opinions on stuff instead of building or participating into organizations, I know for sure I can disregard your words.
then you’re oddly commenting on a thread about striking… which is secondary to the important step of building organizations and support structures. Its hard to near impossible for people to strike who depend on that pay check to clear debt, pay rent, etc. Participating in regular organizing events is the right advice, and you got off on the wrong foot asking first for people to strike and only when asked questions you revealed people need to organize. without the proper support structures and alternative means of income in place, it is near impossible to convince people to strike. They need the strike because they don’t have financial security to stop obeying their boss. You’re ignoring the initial situation. That’s creating a perception of you being about only what you think needs to happen without considering others.
Edit: I did not mean YOU specifically asked people to strike first but you get the point. I am reacting to “we need to strike” as a sentence on its own.
you answered to the wrong person.
If only tech workers weren’t allergic to unions that’d be great
If people stopped repeating this stuff, it would help
Lol, no, it wouldn’t.
I organize tech workers. The expectation that they are going to fight an uphill battle inhibits a lot of them and often it’s not the scenario they are faced with. Tech workers being skeptical of the possibility of unionizing their workplace is a mind virus that needs to be eradicated for anything to happen. If then they find hostility, there are endless means to win over their colleagues, but if you discourage them before even starting, nothing will ever change.
It’s like the entire white collar industry. I think they think it’s beneath them, and they think they will be special.
Eh… having unions sounds good to me… a white collar worker. I am just not considered part of the labour class by blue collar workers. So it makes me feel isolated. Don’t be mistaken, we keyboard thumpers already fight corporate bullshit daily. Th e disdain is from blue collar workers.
Unions can and still lead you to resources and help you unionize. You can’t blame blue collar workers.
I didn’t blame blue collar workers. I said I was isolated because even though both white collar and blue collar workers sell their labour for a living, somehow we are never accepted as real labour just because the elite among us make $500k a year for instance.
I mean you’re still the working class. But a desk job is quite literally not labour. Labour is physical work, specifically lol
I think it’s time for you to be introduced to the concept of “cognitive work”. We have been doing that for a few thousand years now.
So you, without a tiny bit of irony, would say you sitting at your desk is a labour job?