• SleafordMod@feddit.uk
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    proxy war

    So you think Russia waged this war just to stick it to the West? To me it looks like a war of conquest - Russia invaded so they could take land.

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      Why are you even guessing? Every single representative of Russia including Putin gives long ass speeches about why this is happening. Also the US is hardcore plotting and funding terrorism against Russia. They have incidents every two weeks or so.

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        Every single representative of Russia including Putin gives long ass speeches about why this is happening

        The same government that has lied about so many things that I have lost count

        Also the US is hardcore plotting and funding terrorism against Russia

        Evidence? Do you think the US plotted and funded the Crocus City Hall attack for instance?

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      If it was only about conquest, there is countries like Kazachstan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan and Tschadjikistan that Russia could conquer easily and w.o. consequences from the West.

      The key strategic goal for Russia is to prevent NATO standing on their homeland doorsteps.

      For a good explanatiom see this talk by Prof. John Mearsheimer, who foresaw this war coming ten years ago already.

      https://youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4&pp=ygULbWVhcnNoZWltZXI%3D

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        NATO has already been on Russia’s borders - the Baltics and Poland were already NATO members that bordered Russia.

        I think the invasion of Ukraine was indeed a conquest for land. John McCain over 10 years ago predicted that Putin wanted to grab a “land bridge” between mainland Russia and Crimea:

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLAzeHnNgR8&t=58s

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      Now this is just a dim take. We are fighting a war via a proxy (Ukraine) by offering the financial, logistical, and weapon support. Hence, a Proxy War.

      • SleafordMod@feddit.uk
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        What’s dim is refusing to recognise that this war was started by Russia. Russia invaded Ukraine in 2014, then increased their invasion in 2022. Ukraine asked the West for military help so the West provided military help.

        Maybe Ukraine should have been allowed to join NATO years ago when they asked, and then they might not have been invaded.