• peregrin5@lemm.ee
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    3 days ago

    The boomer crusade against alternative milks is one of the weirder forms of toxic masculinity and smacks of subservience to and brainwashing by the milk lobby.

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      3 days ago

      I mostly agree with you, but it’s not great to generalise about an entire generation some negative aspect of people that applies to many people, regardless of age.

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        3 days ago

        Here in Germany they did succeed with it. Oat milk has to be called something like “Hafer-Drink” (note the anglicism) (literally “oat drink”).

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          Yeah, but tbh, it kinda makes sense. You can’t print something on the packaging that says something that’s not the case. You can’t call it “oat milk”, because otherwise people should rightfully assume it was milk with some oat in it.

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            Historically, milk has been used to refer to any liquid with a milky white color. This can be crushed up plants or other things. Milk of magnesia, for example. It is a very old use of the term and changing it to only refer to milk from an animal is more inacurate than letting it refer to these substances. Don’t let the milk industry BS lead you to a false conclusion. Question what you’re told.

            Animal milk can call itself dairy if it wants to be specific. That’s the word for animal milk only.

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              Ok i see, yeah, now that you mention it, we have “Löwenzahnmilch” (dandelion milk) in german, which refers to this:

              But also, “dairy” doesn’t work so well in other languages. I can’t think of a german translation.

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            3 days ago

            No, that wouldn’t be “rightful”. It’s common knowledge that soy milk, oat milk, coconut milk and scouring cream (Scheuermilch in German) don’t contain cow milk. And it was never an issue when coconut milk was the only alternative milk-like product that was widely available.

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            It is milk with some oat in it. The milk part of the oat. That’s exactly what it is.

            You mean people might think it’s breast milk with some oat in it.

            Rather than legislating plant milk, I suggest we legislate breast milk so that it legally has to have the word breast on the packaging.

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            3 days ago

            Imagine calling a non dairy liquid “milk” prior to ten years ago, not conceivable

            Coconut milk, milk of magnesium, soy milk? Made up woke nonsense

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              ‘Made up’?
              You mean other names were bequeefed upon us by lord god jesus christ?
              Are you stupid or just forgot an ‘/s’?

            • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de
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              yeah, tbf, “coconut milk” (which i believe to be older name than 20 years, maybe conceived or widespread in the 1960s) is a questionable candidate. What give you can call “coconut milk” milk, but not “soy milk”.