• ZealousSealion@discuss.tchncs.de
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    I don’t understand why you’d drink a soy caffè latte, because I don’t understand why you’d drink a caffè latte, because I don’t understand why you’d drink any type of coffee.

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    Btw, is there a evolutionary cost to creating lactase? Because, why do we stop with it usually and only keep it if it has huge advantages?

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      I would guess that humans have been around for what, 250k years? And that the vast majority of that didn’t involve a whole lot of milk after age 4.

      So it wouldn’t have been to much advantage to be able to metabolize lactose.

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        No, there is, you get more from your cattle, and on a individual level, less likely to starve.

        Keeping Lactase happened at least twice; north europe and a group in west africa.

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          Saudi Arabia too. I assume that camel milk came in pretty handy in early tribes surviving the deserts.

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          Sure, if you a) keep mammals around and b) drink their milk. I’m not convinced domesticated animals have been a thing for all that long, evolutionarily. Long enough for some groups to have adapted, sure. We have adaptations for cooked food, too.

          [Searches] Cattle probably around 10k years ago.

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          It’s easy to break down into glucose, which is important for bodily functions. Gluconeogenesis is a thing, but it is inefficient.

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    Completely wild to shit on soy milk in coffee.

    Like, if you’re trying to be toxic about your coffee, how do you even justify diluting the coffee with milk in the first place? Can’t even do toxicity properly, get real

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    I didn’t realize I was lactose intolerant for the longest time. I just assumed everyone had some food that gave them the booboos and it was just the price of living. I thought intolerance was synonymous with allergy, and since it didn’t kill me, I just assumed I didn’t have it.

    How I found out:

    Me: I sure do love ice cream. Sucks that it makes me stomach hurt.

    Friend: So you’re lactose intolerant?

    Me: Oh, no, no. Ice cream and milk have just always messed up my stomach.

    Friend:

    Me:

    Friend: That’s what lactose intolerance is.

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      Same with my younger brother. He once told me that he has diarrhea least one time a day. He tought that this is a completely normal thing and is not willing to change anything. He would rather shit his pants than give up milk.

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        I thought everyone was dealing with it. Like, mine happens to be ice cream, someone else gets mudbutt from chicken wings or something. But we keep going because flavor demands sacrifice.

        Turns out that was not the case. 🙃

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            In my mid 20s I was informed that most people don’t find it less easy to breathe after binging carrots. Still never had anaphylaxis and a bit are fine, but yeah I’m supposed to avoid them now

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              I’m in my 30s and before last year I hadn’t realised you’re not supposed to be able to be taste your meal hours after eating it.

              Tried going gluten and dairy free. Never knew I had a sixpack instead of a balloon. It’s not been easy I’d kill for a nice carbonara or a pizza or a cheeseburger. Cheeseburgers. A pile. American sized pile pls. A döner roll with feta.

              But theres wheat and dairy in fucking everything.

              Still, I am much better. Considering.

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      A ton of adults legitimately don’t know that most people develop some degree of lactose intolerance as they age. They think lactose intolerance is like a rare disorder rather than the norm for mammals. It feels like the kind of thing they should have taught us in health class.

      “Around your mid 20s you should pay attention to if milk makes you fart a lot.”

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    I’m allergic to milk. Trying to explain that to people sometimes goes like this:

    “I’m allergic to milk.”

    “You mean you’re lactose intolerant?”

    “No, I’m allergic to milk. I can digest it just fine.”

    “What do you mean?”

    “Milk. I’m allergic to it.”

    “What happens when you drink it?”

    “My throat starts to swell up and get itchy. It’s hard to breathe for a while.”

    “OOOOOH. You’re allergic to milk.”

    “Yeah.”

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      An acquaintance of mine will literally die from anaphylactic shock if he ingests anything with even traces if milk…think severe peanut allergy, but for milk. It’s not the lactose, it’s some protein in it or something, and fucking everything contains traces of milk.

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        God damn, pour one out for your friend, that’s an incredibly rough allergy. Hopefully they have some reliably milk-free food sources.

        EDIT: specifically pour out the glass of milk for your friend they might accidently drink it.

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      I also enjoy the occasional oatmilk latte but recently was reading something about how oats have all sorts of pesticides that can make their way into the milk

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        Is there an agricultural product that you eat that does not contain pesticides in some quantity?

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          Probably not but something like oatmilk could be consumed daily which i guess is where the problem comes in

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            So you eat nothing else but animal products daily…? What you read reeks of fear-mongering with a good dose of “don’t think about it” thrown in, which clearly worked on you.

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            As compared to onions, garlic, potatoes, bread, cereals, or fruit? I’d put adding 4 oz of oatmilk pretty low on our pesticide exposure list.

            Shoot, you should look up how American garlic’s been produced for the past few decades. It’s really disturbing and likely introducing pharmaceuticals back into human foods.

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        I get that, some brands don’t taste good at all. Weirdly enough, I really like the great value stuff. Planet oat or whatever’s decent too

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      Oat milk is good, but I can’t figure out how to make it foam up really nicely like cow’s milk when making a latte ): that’s about the only time I drink milk nowadays, so the lactaid is right next to the machine.

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        “Barista” oat milk has been common for like a decade. How have you both never seen it and never found out about it?

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          I got my espresso machine last week 😅 I spend a good amount of time researching the pros and cons of the machine itself and the details of how to do the whole “make espresso” thing, but I am quite new to all of this.

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        Get an “extra creamy” oat milk. Some brands even make a barista blend. The extra fat helps to form a fine and stable foam