But that is always going to be a problem. Wouldn’t this fall under the description of a “Nazi bar” phenomena? Like, you and I may not personally be Nazis, yet Lemmy contains propaganda (tbf, more for Alt-Left tankie shit than Alt-Right Nazis) and if someone were to peer over our shoulders and see such on our devices, they could (strongly?) question how much they want to be friends. Literally 100% of the people that I’ve recommended Lemmy to irl have actually chided me for having suggested it. It’s baked right into the name of “Lemmy”. It doesn’t help one bit either that the top Google result for that term is lemmy.ml, which shows Local rather than All by default.
While we may carve out and designate a corner of the bar to be “ours”, so long as we are still inside the Nazi bar, can we really be so surprised at who else comes in here? They write the code, and ultimately it’s more theirs than ours, so e.g. if they want to allow Hexbear alts on their instances, then what can we really do about it?
Btw two other features that PieFed offers that are relevant here (it really is quite superb when it comes to this stuff!) are the ability to block a “Domain” and various keyword filters. The former is a feature shared also with Mbin but is so heavily buried that I’ve seen feature requests that went unanswered for it, but if you know how to make it happen then Mbin can do it as well. And some apps - possibly Sync and/or Connect but I dunno. Though PieFed definitely can block not only the users from an instance but also links to it as well. And not just Lemmy instances, but anything, like if you wanted to block all URLs to the Washington Post or New York Times or some such, you can, easily (Account -> Edit Profile -> Blocks -> Domain). Lemmy is the Alt-Left Reddit, so I doubt you’ll ever be offered that feature where you are at, except again from (maybe paid?) apps.
Here’s an example post that shows an image that is hosted on lemmy.ml, which lemmy.cafe has blocked, but shows up anyway. Also, I note that defederation leaves intact all the older posts - e.g. here is an older community whose content remains behind after defederation (even though newer content does not come in).
Anyway, if someone wants more features, then it will need to be built. As PieFed, Mbin, etc. are doing already:-).
That’s cool and all but I honestly feel more inclined to leave… the Fediverse in general since it’s a perfect space to share propaganda extremely fast and most users will swallow it if it’s just populism from an entity that swears to be from the left.
Content-wise there’s just… nothing, it’s just news, opinion pieces passed as news and outrage about the shitty state of the world, I live in fucking México, if I want to be mad(der) I just need to look at the current state of my country and see there’s no hope at all.
The times I’ve tried looking for my interests on anything Fediverse I find nothing at all.
I know I could open a comm or something and provide the content (since I don’t have the resources to host anything) but, honestly, I’d get swarmed just for criticizing my goverment and the Fediverse isn’t exactly welcoming or friendly when they get fixated on something… also there are practically 0 mexicans (or it feels like that) in the Fediverse so I’d be posting content for the void.
I think I’m too jaded right now, but that’s the impresion I have of the Fediverse… and I don’t have the energy to pick a server and make ANOTHER account for something that I’m only going to check once a day.
Yeah for Mexico in particular I agree. I’ve heard that before - so you definitely are not alone there - but yeah there just isn’t a large enough base for it to really have taken off. Even your neighbors to the north don’t do much specifically, see e.g. [email protected] with fewer than one post per day, although Canada seems to have a lot more. Europe might have the most people here?
People were excited but the software development just hasn’t happened since a year or two ago. Kbin generated some excitement but failed, and while Mbin took its place it too seems to have stalled. Sublinks was even more exciting, promising to allow conversion of an existing Lemmy instance’s content into the new framework, but a year ago the developer had a baby and disappeared for a long time. Now I place my hope in PieFed, but it’s only slowly catching up to feature parity with Lemmy, even as in some ways it has already far surpassed it (though has yet to be tested at a larger scale).
That said, I cannot stand Reddit anymore - it’s too many arguments rather than facts or kindness.
But that is always going to be a problem. Wouldn’t this fall under the description of a “Nazi bar” phenomena? Like, you and I may not personally be Nazis, yet Lemmy contains propaganda (tbf, more for Alt-Left tankie shit than Alt-Right Nazis) and if someone were to peer over our shoulders and see such on our devices, they could (strongly?) question how much they want to be friends. Literally 100% of the people that I’ve recommended Lemmy to irl have actually chided me for having suggested it. It’s baked right into the name of “Lemmy”. It doesn’t help one bit either that the top Google result for that term is lemmy.ml, which shows Local rather than All by default.
While we may carve out and designate a corner of the bar to be “ours”, so long as we are still inside the Nazi bar, can we really be so surprised at who else comes in here? They write the code, and ultimately it’s more theirs than ours, so e.g. if they want to allow Hexbear alts on their instances, then what can we really do about it?
Btw two other features that PieFed offers that are relevant here (it really is quite superb when it comes to this stuff!) are the ability to block a “Domain” and various keyword filters. The former is a feature shared also with Mbin but is so heavily buried that I’ve seen feature requests that went unanswered for it, but if you know how to make it happen then Mbin can do it as well. And some apps - possibly Sync and/or Connect but I dunno. Though PieFed definitely can block not only the users from an instance but also links to it as well. And not just Lemmy instances, but anything, like if you wanted to block all URLs to the Washington Post or New York Times or some such, you can, easily (Account -> Edit Profile -> Blocks -> Domain). Lemmy is the Alt-Left Reddit, so I doubt you’ll ever be offered that feature where you are at, except again from (maybe paid?) apps.
Here’s an example post that shows an image that is hosted on lemmy.ml, which lemmy.cafe has blocked, but shows up anyway. Also, I note that defederation leaves intact all the older posts - e.g. here is an older community whose content remains behind after defederation (even though newer content does not come in).
Anyway, if someone wants more features, then it will need to be built. As PieFed, Mbin, etc. are doing already:-).
That’s cool and all but I honestly feel more inclined to leave… the Fediverse in general since it’s a perfect space to share propaganda extremely fast and most users will swallow it if it’s just populism from an entity that swears to be from the left.
Content-wise there’s just… nothing, it’s just news, opinion pieces passed as news and outrage about the shitty state of the world, I live in fucking México, if I want to be mad(der) I just need to look at the current state of my country and see there’s no hope at all.
The times I’ve tried looking for my interests on anything Fediverse I find nothing at all.
I know I could open a comm or something and provide the content (since I don’t have the resources to host anything) but, honestly, I’d get swarmed just for criticizing my goverment and the Fediverse isn’t exactly welcoming or friendly when they get fixated on something… also there are practically 0 mexicans (or it feels like that) in the Fediverse so I’d be posting content for the void.
I think I’m too jaded right now, but that’s the impresion I have of the Fediverse… and I don’t have the energy to pick a server and make ANOTHER account for something that I’m only going to check once a day.
Yeah for Mexico in particular I agree. I’ve heard that before - so you definitely are not alone there - but yeah there just isn’t a large enough base for it to really have taken off. Even your neighbors to the north don’t do much specifically, see e.g. [email protected] with fewer than one post per day, although Canada seems to have a lot more. Europe might have the most people here?
People were excited but the software development just hasn’t happened since a year or two ago. Kbin generated some excitement but failed, and while Mbin took its place it too seems to have stalled. Sublinks was even more exciting, promising to allow conversion of an existing Lemmy instance’s content into the new framework, but a year ago the developer had a baby and disappeared for a long time. Now I place my hope in PieFed, but it’s only slowly catching up to feature parity with Lemmy, even as in some ways it has already far surpassed it (though has yet to be tested at a larger scale).
That said, I cannot stand Reddit anymore - it’s too many arguments rather than facts or kindness.